What do you feel about the shaming tactics used against Pro feminist men?

How do I feel about the shaming tactics used against pro-feminist men?

Basically I find them highly amusing and a good source of comic relief. I've been called everything from gay to a self-loathing, woman pleasing male feminist "mangina", to someone with an extreme masochistic personality who was probably raised in a house full of fat, hairy, lesbian dominatrices who indoctrinated me into the notion of female supremacy with daily whippings and floggings.

For some reason, they always make me chuckle no matter how often I hear them.

They both seem to get a lot of shaming tactics. But all feminists and MRA's do is whine and b*tch so they deserve it.

Well I don't know why they would be called gay or like a woman.

Feminism clearly is against men and any man who promotes feminism has betrayed his own gender it is that simple.

I used to be a feminist supporter. I attended rallies hung leaflets and all of that.

But at a rally one feminist stood up and said that all men were pigs and rapists including those of us that were there to help.

Did the woman get pulled of the stage no she got a standing ovation.

And I left feminism behind and started researching it deeper and I discovered that they are not out for equality they are out to make the world give them everything they want.

I noticed they did the same things they accused men of.

Any man the supports the destruction and oppression of other men is a traitor just that simple.

It's great to see that yourself, Lone Wolf, Joshua, Pat and other decent men are not afraid to voice their opinions on here regarding pro feminist men.

I wonder why the anti feminist men seem to say that men cannot support a movement like feminism and yet they don't call women names who are not feminists. Is it not the same thing? I don't shame my own gender by calling them names. Doesn't make them any less feminine. Yet the men will shame pro feminist men with the masculinity excuse. I feel that some of the anti feminist men are more annoyed at the feminist movement and whoever supports it will be under fire by them.

At the end of the day, blame will only increase the frustration on both sides of the argument. As you say, emphasis should be put on men's roles in today's new society. If society had started out with equality from day one, then noone would need to question their roles in life. We are at that point now, so what is considered natural - equality or no equality? It's unnatural to suggest that anyone supporting equality is going against nature.

I cringe when I see it. I feel badly about it. But it does illustrate with abundant clarity who the misogynists are. It shows that they enjoy their hatred of women, and are in no way interesed in good relations between the genders.

They see you, and others like Lone Wolf and Pat who are intelligent and genuinely interested in gender issues (and gender studies) as the "enemy." You (collectively) aren't playing the misogyny game correctly, and they appear to live by the mantra "you're either with us, or against us".

I wouldn't be surprised if they started calling themselves the "coalition of the willing" and the pro-feminist men as the "axis of eeeeeeeeevil" LOL. Take it as a compliment. If I were you, I'd be really concerned if half of them started calling you "one of us". It's a "pack" mentality. Heaven forbid you stray from the status quo. You might be mistaken for being a free-thinking decent man! (I think you guys are fantastic :-))

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it's because men are also victims of gender role.

Shaming tactics are disgusting. But I can see how hostility towards feminist males could exist.

It is more of a mentality that "you should know what we go through".

But people of all races and genders fall victim to cults and bigoted ideologies all the time so to have such an expectation is folly.

"It is much easier to blame than look to your own challenges and find a constructive way to deal with them. Or to find how you want to fit into the community, into relationships or to your role in the workplace."

If I where to take that quote at face value it pretty much say's "surrender why bother resisting".

Personally I find it more couragous to stand up to tyranny and to rebel against the opressive norms that society tries to push as the standard. If women and african americans listened to your quote they still wouldn't have the right to vote.

For myself, I find feminist men a bit creepy. I feel the way Florence King does about them, she wrote in 'Southern Ladies and Gentlemen' that feminist men reminded her of the kind of people who used to sidle up to black people at parties in the 60s and say "I've always been for the nee-gro"

Shaming tactics in general are silly and get on my nerves. This is no exception. It shows that you don't really have an argument if you have to go to these levels.