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Have a Question; Agnostics/Atheists?

I accidentally put this question in the wrong category before but here we go: Since Agnostics are "undecided" as to the existance of God because of lack of evidence, and Atheists simply don;t believe in God, then my question is, if Judgement Day arrives and the Lord comes, do the Agnostics still get a chance to go to Heaven since technically they didn't DIsbelieve in God, they simply needed more proof? Or is would they still not make it to heaven since they did not go by Faith and simply BELIEVE?

Update:

Okay, let me clear this up; My beliefe has absolutely nothing to do with this. The belief of Heaven and Hell is a Christian belief; one that you can scoff at, I don't really care. I would like an answer because I too, have questions about how the whole Heaven and Hell thing truly works and I don't need any smart *** answers, I truly have an interest in learning. As to answer number three, I am merely quoting what was stated to me on this site after asking the difference between the two (Agnostic and Atheists). I don't want to get the impression that Atheist= smartypants, so if you could be respectful that would really be great. Thanks.

Update 2:

Brava, Maureen; my beliefs are quite similar, although I feel that there are absolutes that are in place regardless of what we believe....

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    First, agnostic deals with knowledge, not faith. Hence you have believe in god, but having no proof you can not KNOW he is there. Agnostic theist. Good question though. You need Jesus to get into heaven. I don't know how many times I've heard that. So I would say no, agnostics go to hell with the atheists.

  • 1 decade ago

    Your definition of agnosticism is incorrectly strict. Theists and atheists can be agnostic. Being agnostic means you are not absolutely sure, which is the only sane position. I don't know whether or not deities exist with absolute certainty because I don't have absolute knowledge, however I'm 99% there isn't because there is no evidence at all supporting their existence thus I'm an atheist. I am also an agnostic as most atheists are.

    To test if you are agnostic imagine full proof evidence was brought before you proving your belief wrong and another correct, would you change your belief? If yes then you are agnostic. If you have complete faith in your belief and are unwilling to change it no matter what you are gnostic. You would also be crazy IMO.

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    If you don't want smart *** answers then your in the wrong section I'm afraid. However if you want to get a taste of some reel bile head over to the Elections section. I've spent some time in there and believe me when I say it makes this section look like a nunnery.

  • 1 decade ago

    Actually, you are mis-defining agnostics, which is common. All agnostics are atheists, they do not believe in god(s); they are not simply doubters, and by definition one who is undecided does not believe, though at some point they might. Many misuse the term when they are really deists or believers with doubts. Many agnostics feel that proof is impossible in either direction, in other words that it is simply impossible to know, but others recognize merely that an absence of evidence is not proof of anything, and the burden of proof is on the believers as they are making the positive claim.

    Agnostics, then, are a subset of atheists, properly divided into gnostic/strong and agnostic/weak atheists. There are very few strong/gnostic atheists, because the position is logically untenable: to be a strong atheist, one must accept proof that no god by any definition at any time or place could exist. This is logically unsound; most atheists are strong atheists only about certain gods that have been described by religions. For example, the ancient Egyptians defined cats as gods. By that definition, who could deny cats exist? One might argue that the definition is flawed, but arguing existence would be absurd. Once a god is defined, however, then that god is easy to prove/disprove; that's one reason why many slimy apologists try and claim their god is undefinable, because you cannot prove something undefined doesn't exist.

    As for your question, they only being capable of answering it would be the deity making the decision, and since no one on earth knows if one exists, much less what it wants, the question is pointless.

  • Mike K
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Well, it's a bit misleading to say that agnostics are undecided about the existence of god due to lack of evidence but atheists just don't believe. For one thing, the lack of evidence is essential to atheists but not to agnostics.

    By definition, a "theist" is one who believes in a personal god. Conversely, an "atheist" is someone who does not believe in a personal god. If the agnostic is uncertain it means he doesn't (currently) believe because he doesn't know what to. An agnostic is technically an atheist because he's not sure - and that necessitates unbelief (belief would make you a theist). Buddhists are also technically atheists because they don't believe in a personal god.

    The most common atheist position is essentially that "It's impossible to know for sure, but because there is no evidence for a god (but tons against) the odds of one existing are so improbable that it's best to assume there isn't one." Few to none will say with 100% certainty "there is no god." However, we recognize that there's no reason to believe and the chance for there being a god is sooo improbable it's not worth the time.

    Really there is almost no difference between agnostics and atheists. Most atheists I know call themselves "agnotics" in public or near christians just to avoid inevitable confrontation or persecution. "True" agnostics in my experience tend to be arrogant about it almost as if ignoring one of the biggest questions in human history is virtuous. But, as the saying goes, "An atheist is just an agnostic who's thought about it."

    It doesn't matter much as I recall... According to the bible IF the judgment day comes all people will see Jesus as if pierced by the eyes with a needle (or something like that) and all will have the chance to accept him. So on the hypothetical judgment day... EVERYONE will have a chance to accept him then and be forgiven. However, Jesus was specific that the end of the world would occur during the lifetimes of his apostles... Peter believed he would live to see judgment day, so did Paul and some other gospel writers... Also the "end of the earth" was a mistranslation from "end of this age." So we know from biblical studies that there really won't be a judgment day... period. Not to mention the book of revelations was only added because one bishop threatened to kill the others if they didn't include it.

    However, that day will never come. We can't know for sure there isn't a god, but we do know most of the bible (and especially most interpretation of it!) is fictitious...

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  • 1 decade ago

    All the hardcore Christians get to go to Heaven Club together and shut the pearly gates on everyone else, or so most Christian doctrine dictates. If that's true I'd rather be in "Hell" with the majority of my friends and loved ones and most of the great musicians, artists, philosophers and writers. I'll miss getting to hang out C.S. Lewis, but it's a price I'll have to pay for not being bored out of my mind for eternity.

    I hope that if there is a God and he is truly just he will accept all good people into his house regardless of what they think he looks like.

  • hanby
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

    i could say definite. that is all we are able to be relatively. I advise who's to assert that the following day a deity won't come out of the sunlight and communicate with us. that is totally no longer likely of path it relatively is why i don't have faith it may take place. Calling your self an agnostic atheist is in certainty like asserting "nicely i don't have faith in gods, yet that does no longer mean that I thoroughly write-out the possibility." that is quite on par with asserting a similar approximately unicorns or area-teapots, although that's the sole way of being intellectually uncomplicated: you do no longer understand, do no longer say which you do. the entire theory of agnosticism is deceptive to maximum individuals it form of feels, as maximum look to think of that being agnostic merely means you're sitting on the fence between perception or disbelief in the Judeo-Christian god while in reality that is in uncomplicated terms a loss of confident place on any sort of matters. it relatively is the reason you're able to need yet another word in there to sparkling it up - ie: you could no longer purely be 'agnostic', yet you're able to be an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic theist.

  • 1 decade ago

    The whole male, monodeity concept-completely irrational to me. It's even more unrealistic to me that this being would judge it's own creation with such harsh terms after leaving not only non-existant, but in some ways, contradicting evidence. For example, how many living organisms can reproduce individually, much less complex organisms (like mammals)? On top of that, there is proof that some humans do lie, misinterpret others and lead them with stories of one or more god/desses. Some tribal leader taking stories and myths he had heard and trying to lead his tribe by keeping them scared/loyal to the same conceptual being...thats more plausible than believing some ancient scare stories are real.

    The idea is unreal to me-I can't answer based on an 'if'.

  • 1 decade ago

    I don't think it would really matter a great deal to the agnostics or atheists if they got it wrong.

    If worrying about going to heaven was an issue for anyone agnostic or atheist, then they would not be agnostic or atheist.

    Ah but perhaps, if the God in question was as all loving and all understanding as he is purported to be, then they would get the choice for themselves.

  • 1 decade ago

    Since you'll obviously be in the front of the line, why not just ask the Lord when the time comes.

    Edit: Ok, since you claim this is a serious question, I'll try to answer seriously. The fact is no one know. We don't know what God's purpose for every person is. As Christians, what we do know that Jesus Christ has laid out a plan for us and if we follow it, then we will attain Heaven. Does that mean that the Jews/Atheists/Agnostics/Pagans/Muslims/etc etc etc are out? That is for Him to decide. Anyone who tells you otherwise should be shunned and ridiculed.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    This is like the second or third question I've answered on the end times or the rapture, or the judgment day. Why can't you live for today, why do you have to worry so much about what's going to happen when you die? That's no way to live life.

    And to answer your question, if this tyrannical god does indeed exist, agnostics won't get up there either.

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