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Traditional Catholicism defined? What it is not.?
A year ago it was asked: Why does traditional Catholicism oppose Vatican II? It appears few know how to find serious answers. Moderators properly replied and yet the inquiries persist. This is so because the web is filled millions of sites for Modernistic Catholicism and only four or five sites to show what is True Catholicism. Even a casual inquirer would never locate a doctrinal answer. What to do?
The cautious inquirer should do this: Compare your impressions of today's Modernism with a catechism dated before the council of Vatican II (1962-1965), such as the online Baltimore Catechism, levels 1 thru 4. There are four levels, beginners to catechists. Or use the doctrinal level Catechism of Trent to compare encyclical content.
I add this. Modern Catholicism is a "mixture" of some original doctrine and some heretical doctrine. When this happens a "newchurch" is invented. It is not Catholic. The difficulty is knowing which doctrines are "new" and which are historically accurate. Which is which? You cannot have both. Modern Catholicism is condemned by Pops St. Pius X. One also can add, Modern Catholicism is condemned over and over by all the Church Doctrine prior to Pope Pius XII (1958). This is so because it takes the meaning out of a doctrine and puts a new meaning in. That is called heresy.
It is possible to acquire knowledge from websites so contact me privately.
Prison Officer, I had very much looked forward to your response. But you have given it in the Latin change in the Mass: Pro Omnibus is heresy, and that is the Novus Ordo Mass. Pro Multis is the True and legitimate Mass of all time of the Council of Trent, an infallible Council. Thank you. jerilyn@execpc.com
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I have answered this question to the best of my knowledge. As I was writing my response, the entire page was deleted. I do not want to write my response again. This is my body, this is my blood which shall be shed for you and for many Pro Multis. unto the remission of sins.
Modern version: For all Pro Omnibus. The mass was Universal in Latin, not so in each language on the Earth.
Source(s): Personal Experience. I cannot understand the Mass in Portugal, Germany or a host of other countries.. - MistodayLv 51 decade ago
Why does traditional Catholicism oppose Vatican II?
Because many brought in their own agendas & called it Vatican II. I heard recently that Vatican II is not an Ecunemical Council & changed nothing. If so why was the Tridentine Mass just recently allowed again anywhere regardless of the local ordinaries.
I hope that the four bishops accept Vatican II in light of tradition. Has various aspects of the Church been invaded? Judge the tree by the fruit. The 4 bishops have expressed hope they might help with renewal to the Church in general.
They could be like the Confraternity of St Peter whose priests are traditional priests who offer Tridentine Masses & have parishes or offer Masses at specific times where it is requested. This is wishful thinking perhaps, but the Tridentine Mass is legal anywhere & any parishioner may request such a Mass.
Jesus told us the Church is like a light on a hill or a mustard tree which would contain wheat & tares or good & bad fish.
I contend on these pages that the teachings of the Church are sound when viewed in light of tradition, unless Jesus was wrong and hell did prevail. Arians had a stranglehold on the Church early & where are they? Check out this article I saw yesterday:
Source(s): http://www.ewtn.com/library/indexes/CATECHSM.htm Children arriving at high school age today are often found to be on a level of religious ignorance comparable with that of the ancient pagans. This article appeared in the August/ September 1995 issue of 'The Homiletic & Pastoral Review.' http://www.ewtn.com/library/CATECHSM/CATPAGAN.HTM Here is a group in a nonindustrialized country: A SOUND GUIDE FOR GIRLS AND WOMEN WHO WANT TO KNOW WHAT GOOD AUTHORITIES IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MODESTY IN DRESS. http://www.geocities.com/aomlanaval/article1.html - john wLv 71 decade ago
If you take your thesis to it's logical outcome, then the Seat of Peter is currently vacant.
Judging by past standards, one could argue that the last two 'popes' especially, have demonstrated actions and words that manifest heresy.
But why would God leave the Church without a true Pope for 40 years?
Why would the largest Traditional organization, the SSPX, initiate talks with a 'heretical Newchuch' and seek lifting of invalid 'excommunications'?
- SldgmanLv 71 decade ago
Ask yourself theses question: Who is the current Pope - Pope St. Pius X, Pope Pius XII, or Pope Benedict XVI?
Vatican II was a valid council, so the changes that came about as a result of Vatican II are valid.
If you deny the ligitimacy of Vatican II or Pope Benedict XVI, you have placed yourself outside the Catholic Church.
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- sohelLv 45 years ago
the main important doctrinal distinction is the pre-Vatican II church taught and the classic Church nonetheless believes the dogma, "No Salvation exterior the Catholic Church", eg. Preamble to Vatican I : "This authentic catholic faith, exterior of which none could be stored, which I now freely profess and actually carry -" however the submit Vatican II church teaches that salvation is accessible to all religions {Jews, Lutherans, etc} , in case you do not have faith me, merely ask a Vatican II Priest.
- imacatholic2Lv 71 decade ago
There are Catholics in full communion with the Pope and the Catholic Church and there are "cafeteria Catholics" who pick and choose what they want to believe and practice. A couple of examples are "Catholics" who are pro-abortion and "Catholics" who refuse to accept the teachings of Vatican II.
The term "Cafeteria Christians" refers to people who view Christianity like a cafeteria where one picks and chooses only those beliefs that appeal to them and reject a genuine interpretation of Christian doctrine and the teachings of Jesus.
The term "Cafeteria Catholics" is similar. It is used to describe people who dissent from certain teachings of the Catholic Church while maintaining an outward identity as Catholics.
In Los Angeles in 1987, Pope John Paul II said: "It is sometimes claimed that dissent from the magisterium is totally compatible with being a "good Catholic," and poses no obstacle to the reception of the Sacraments. This is a grave error that challenges the teaching of the Bishops in the United States and elsewhere."
Heresy is the obstinate denial after Baptism of a truth which must be believed with divine and Catholic faith.
"Cafeteria Catholics" in denial of certain truths are in danger of committing heresy.
With love in Christ.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
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