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bailie28 asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

what do you think about this, is this really something another country should be doing to people of our?

country?

MADRID, – A Spanish court has agreed to consider opening a criminal case against six former Bush administration officials, including former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, over allegations they gave legal cover for torture at Guantanamo Bay, a lawyer in the case said Saturday.

Human rights lawyers brought the case before leading anti-terror judge Baltasar Garzon, who agreed to send it on to prosecutors to decide whether it had merit, Gonzalo Boye, one of the lawyers who brought the charges, told The Associated Press.

The ex-Bush officials are Gonzales; former undersecretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith; former Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff David Addington; Justice Department officials John Yoo and Jay S. Bybee; and Pentagon lawyer William Haynes.

"The charges as related to me make no sense," Feith said Saturday. "They criticize me for promoting a controverial position that I never advocated."

Yoo declined to comment. A message left at the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco where Bybee is now a judge was not immediately returned. A message left at Chevron Corp. in San Ramon, Calif., where Haynes reportedly works as an attorney was not immediately returned.

Spanish law allows courts to reach beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes under a doctrine of universal justice, though the government has recently said it hopes to limit the scope of the legal process.

Garzon became famous for bringing charges against former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998, and he and other Spanish judges have agreed to investigate alleged abuses everywhere from Tibet to Argentina's "dirty war," El Salvador and Rwanda.

Still, the country's record in prosecuting such cases has been spotty at best, with only one suspect extradited to Spain so far.

When a similar case was brought against Israeli officials earlier this year, Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos assured his Israeli counterpart that the process would be quashed.

Even if indictments are eventually handed down against the U.S. officials, it is far from clear whether arrests would ever take place. The officials would have to travel outside the United States and to a country willing to take them into custody before possible extradition to Spain.

The officials are charged with providing a legal cover for interrogation methods like waterboarding against terrorism suspects at Guantanamo, which the Spanish human rights lawyers say amounted to torture.

Yoo, for instance, wrote a series of secret memos that claimed the president had the legal authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.

President George W. Bush always denied the U.S. tortured anyone. The U.S. has acknowledged that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described plotter of Sept. 11, and a few other prisoners were waterboarded at secret CIA prisons before being taken to Guantanamo, but the Bush administration insisted that all interrogations were lawful.

Boye said he expected the National Court to take the case forward, and dismissed concerns that it would harm bilateral relations between the two countries.

He said that some of the victims of the alleged torture were Spaniards, strengthening the argument for Spanish jurisdiction.

"When you bring a case like this you can't stop to make political judgments as to how it might affect bilateral relations between countries," he told the AP." It's too important for that."

Boye noted that the case was brought not against interrogators who might have committed crimes but by the lawyers and other high-placed officials who gave cover for their actions.

"Our case is a denunciation of lawyers, by lawyers, because we don't believe our profession should be used to help commit such barbarities," he said.

Another lawyer with detailed knowledge of the case told the AP that Garzon's decision to consider the charges was "a significant first step." The lawyer spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

There was no immediate comment from Garzon or the government.

The judge's decision to send the case against the American officials to prosecutors means it will proceed, at least for now. Prosecutors must now decide whether to recommend a full-blown investigation, though Garzon is not bound by their decision.

The proceedings against the Bush Administration officials could be embarrassing for Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who has been keen to improve ties with the United States after frosty relations during the Bush Administration.

Zapatero is scheduled to meet President Barack Obama for the first time on April 5 during a summit in Prague.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090329/ap_on_re_eu/eu...

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and what exactly do they expect to happen after this trial?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Any such action by Spain would have serious reprocussions for them. Considering their own record of atrocities during their civil war they are in no position to judge anyone.

  • Noah H
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    The wheels of justice grind slowly. Let's not be impatient. If you recall many former nazi officials lived for forty years or more under a cloud until the law caught up to them. My personal feeling is that the entire Bush Junta should be up on charges, though in a legal sense I really don't know exactly how or if these guys are guilty. A free, open and fair trial would either convict or exonerate these people. If the Spaniards can make this happen, more power to them. Frankly, at this time in the US we have a huge number of pressing problems. A series of trials of former Bush operatives, not to mention Bush himself would disrupt our search for economic stability. Too bad for that. But if I were George Bush I wouldn't get to comfortable. As I said, the wheels of Justice grind slowly. I wonder if hears a grinding sound? I hope so. No kiddin'!

  • 1 decade ago

    Spain.

    The country ruled by Dictator Franco from 1939 to 1975?

    The guy the Nazis helped bring to power?.

    maybe they will clack their castanets at them(the accused)

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    You might want to do an excerpt and link.

    I was just going to bring this up.

    They had better Eat **** and Die.

    We Try Our Own under American Law.

    I will personally Offer to Guard these Guys and I do not like Them either.

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  • Sarah
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    They broke our laws and international law concerning how to treat POW's. If ANY other US citizen did this, they too would be subject to extradition.

    After the trial?? If found guilty, I suspect Bush and Co. will spend far more time in the US.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    thats retarded. Spain has no ground. besides they never closed Guantanamo bay. and so what if they did all they do is move them somewhere else and torture them. its war get over it. no rules in war, thats why its war. this is so stupid. i dont think any of this should be going on including the war but really. have you seen what happens in war? what about all the innocent Iraqis that are dead. 1.3 million and you cant tell me they are all terrorists.

  • 1 decade ago

    Screw Spain, this just shows how many dipshits there are around the world.

  • 1 decade ago

    Spain can do what it wants. It is a free and sovereign nation.

    I'm just glad that SOMEBODY is investigating the crimes of the Bush administration. It's a shame our own Congress is ignoring their Constitutional duty to do so.

  • 1 decade ago

    Yeth,that terrorith luving judge take's it up the ath . Oh my goodneth!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Why not. Hasn't the U.S. been doing the same thing for decades now.

    Source(s): NWO
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