Aren't Services "Rationed" Under Our Current Health Care System?

Yes...you are right! Insurance companies for too long have been dictating the health care of others. They have no right to do that. They are greedy just like Wall Street!

First of all, everyone has coverage now. No hospital can refuse to treat you. Some people do not have insurance, but that does not mean they don't get treated. To answer the question of why a private system is better than a socialized system, let me put it this way: Socialized option: you pay $100 per month, whether you are sick or not. When you get sick, you go to the one and only place you can go, and accept the one and only treatment you are allowed. When you get crappy service, that's too bad because there are no other options, unless you are a millionaire that can afford private treatment. Private option: you can choose not to buy insurance, so you only pay when you are sick, or you can buy insurance if you choose. When you get sick you can choose from many different places to get and choose from a variety of treatments. When you get crappy service, you can stop using United Healthcare and instead choose Blue Cross, Humana, Aetna, etc. Anybody, not just millionaires will have access to whatever treatments they can afford. Why on God's green Earth would anybody choose the socialized option? Why would you ever choose a monopoly over the freedom to choose? Would you ever want to make Wal-mart the ONLY store you can buy from and close all the rest down? No, that's retarded. Then why would you do that to your health care? You people are supposed to be pro-choice, so why are you violently opposed to having a choice in health care?

Of course rationing occurs in the USA. However, Obama is not going to bring about an end to that. He wants to make insurance more available. The companies will still try to get our pf paying when they can...

FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.

FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.

That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.

Rationed, withheld, denied and often economically impossible. that is why our current health care system leads the world in cost but in no other meaningful category.

EDIT: Correction for moose. Mexico does not have the health care system we are proposing. Mexico and the United States are two of only three industrialized countries that do not have a government health care system. Always good to get your facts before you start typing!

Gee, and I can remember when liberals DIDN'T believe everything the government told them, like a flock of sheep. You know, they say the devil always tells the truth, he just never tells all the truth. So here's what Big Brother's not telling you:

Every resident in the US will be catalogued and tracked from cradle to grave.

Instead of your doctor deciding what's best for you, that'll be the responsibility of some faceless beaurocrat in D.C. reading from a one-size-fits-all Instruction that makes no allowance for individual needs.

Those expensive deductions and co-pays will be taken out of your paycheck in the form of increased taxes - whether you need the doctor each month or not.

All the prescriptions the government decides you need will be covered. Those are the only ones you can have.

Since there will be no competition among doctors, there will be no incentive for improvement and excellence; plus it will be next to impossible to weed out the incompetent because they work for the government now - did you ever try to sue the United States government?

Cost of coverage on a sliding scale means that drug dealer on the corner with no W2 pays zilch while the guy working twelve hours a day at a factory foots the bill for both of them.

A simplified administration system? Have you EVER waited on paperwork from the government?

Yes, very portable, because you are in a national database - which is why the government will know if your doctor gives you an aspirin without permission.

No corporate beaurocrat will ever come between you and your doctor to deny your care - because that's the government's job. What do you think these people on Medicare are complaining about?

Wake up, bambi, those are not stars in your eyes, they're headlights from the Obama 18-wheeler that's about to smash you flat.

it'll take me longer than i have available to me today to investigate every detail of the bill as proposed to be able to give a reasoned and rational opinion on the matter.

that said, i do agree with your assertion that health care is indeed being rationed today. not by government, but by multinational corporations that have a vested financial interest and incentive in denying payment of benefits.

my ex's business partner died recently from cancer. he was diagnosed over a year ago, but no treatment either curative or palliative was considered for him because they had no insurance and could not afford to pay full freight in cash.

there has to be a better way. as a cancer survivor myself, it chills me to the bone to know that if i hadn't had insurance, i would have died some 14 years ago.

and to my conservative friends who would say, "the GOP wants to make it easier to pay your own bills".... all i can say is, have you ever seen the bill for a typical cancer patient? no one, and i mean NO one, except the uber-wealthy has that kind of cash laying around.

I agree with one of the commercials fromm AA RP that refers to Medical Insurance as a Medical coupon.

Yes, I agree with you. And I also wonder when everyone is going to realize that they are paying for healthcare that is three times as expensive as preventive care for those who don't have insurance. They seem to think that just because there isn't a federal tax or law on the books, they aren't really paying for it. They apparently think the money comes from thin air, not from their property, state and city sales taxes.

Absolutely.

yes. Health care costs are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in this country...why do you think that is?