What religion do "messianic Jews" follow?

answer: The worship of a divine, sacrificed human/deity is foreign and abhorrent to Judaism.

Twisting Jesus (or whatever Hebrew name you give him) into Jewish rituals and Jewish holy days doesn't make one Jewish - it makes one either self-deluded and willfully ignorant or deceitful and dishonorable.

answer: a form of Christianity that attempts to force Christian beliefs into Judaism which is impossible.

The description of the Creation of Woman in the Bible is rather Symbolic. First of all it says that it is not good for man to be alone (I would like to point out it doesn't say that about women). Then it goes on to talk about how Women was created by pulling a rib out of Adam's Chest. Not a bone from the foot to be trampled upon, and not a bone from the head to be above, but a bone from the chest to be equal to. Now think farther, what purpose do the ribs serve? They protect vital and life giving organs. A woman by God's plan fills the same role. They are to be respected, honored, cherished, and protected. In the Bible do you know of anywhere it mentions God's wife? It isn't in there. Why? Not because he is not married. In Genesis God says a man should be married. So to be perfect a man must be married, and God is perfect so God is married. If God is married why don't we read about his wife anywhere? Answer, If you knew that your name would be treated in the manner that God's has would any good husband allow that to be done to his wife? No, and so instead of doing something to limit our agency He didn't mention His Wife, and thus She does not have Her name desecrated like His has been. As far as the passage you refer to in Timothy I would imagine that is one of the many spots in the Bible that have been the victim of intentional or unintentional mistranslations over the centuries. Women are not 2nd class citizens. Christ in his ministry taught that, not with words but His actions. If you look at the respect that He showed the women He interacted with, and compare that with how women were treated in that day, you will see he was downright revolutionary. He would have made just about any womens rights activist today happy. When you take that into account there are plenty of reasons why a woman would be a Christian. Oh yes I should mention I am a male.

They are following Judaism but believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Since Messianic Jews believe that Jesus is the Messiah it is only natural that it would that they will have a few things in common the the Christians. All the first followers were Jews, the New Testament of the Christian Bible was written by Jews with one exception. Some Jews are reading the New Testament and coming to believe that Jesus is the Messiah. It's just like it was almost 2,000 years ago. Since some Jews believe that Yeshua is the Messiah and they are called Messianic Jews the ones that don't believe that Yeshua is the Messiah have to be called non Messianic to differentiate them from the other Jews. It all starts getting really confusing because Jews from all the Jewish denominations have gone Messianic. So the only way us Christians can sort it out is to use this terminology. If not we can't even discuss the subject. None of us are intending any offense but you guys are making it really hard on us because of all the different opinions about what flies and does not fly in Judaism. There us a Jewish saying ask 5 Jews a question and you'll get 10 answers so I hope everyone know what I mean.

For goodness sake, get a grip, your obsession with Messianic Jews &

Devoted 1 inparticular is rather tiresome.

She has said she was a christian a year ago, i myself was a christian

6 years ago, having come through christianity, we & others like us have

come to the conclusion that the first disciples of Y'shua were Jewish &

the Gentiles who came into the sect followed the practises of Judaism,

that is Torah & observed the Feasts, Festivals & Shabbat, they all

believed that Y'shua was & is the Messiah of Israel & asked them to

follow His Commandments, the very same ones that YHWH God gave

to ALL Israel at Mt Sinai & as a result of us seeing this we have

decided that something is missing in christianity & what is needed is

a Relationship with Father YHWH & His Son Messiah Y'shua.

The Jewish faith is also supposed to be a Relationship with Father God

not a religion, so Messianic Jews & Messianic Believers do not

belong to a Religion.

True Messianic's are not worshipping Y'shua, but YHWH God our

Father as Y'shua instructed us. We do know the Commandment of

"Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." YHWH is One( Echad) &

Y'shua is His Son, He defers ALL Worship to the Father.

People make mistakes along the way & correct as they go along &

seeing as Messianic's do not have the support of Jews most have not

had the benefit of growing up in a Jewish home, things would go a lot

faster if Jews would just open their eyes to see that we are not the

enemy & help us to fit the puzzle together. Some Jews who are now

Messianic's have seen the light & are giving insight that one can only get from the Jewish mindset.

We also realize that JEW FOR JESUS has done a lot of harm, meaning to help, they took Jews who joined them, totally away from

the Feasts & Festivals & turned Jews into little christians, when they were supposed to find their Messiah & remain Jewish & continue in

their wealth of family blessing & heritage.

Not all Messianic Jews & Messianic Believers are trying to proselytize

U, BUT U do not seem to see the difference & are against the very

people who are more for Jews than any other group of people on the

face of the earth.

All I can say is Come Y'shua Come, so that all this fighting & jealousy

can stop.

Most are following Judaism The reason that that there appears to be so much confusion is that Reform Judaism is unique in believing you can stop being a Jew after being one. So the comments about Jews becoming Christians and no longer being Jews is strictly from the Reform perspective. It should be remembered that the Reform movement at one time wanted to celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday to be more like Christians.

Traditional Judaism maintains that a Jew, whether by birth or conversion, is a Jew forever. Thus a Jew who claims to be an atheist or converts to another religion is still considered by traditional Judaism to be Jewish. However, the Reform movement maintains that a Jew who has converted to another religion is no longer a Jew,[1][2] and the Israeli Government has also taken that stance after Supreme Court cases and statutes.[3]

It is very common for Reform Jews to become involved in other religions. Unitarianism, Paganism and Buddhism are great examples of this unusual phenomenon. Most of the people running Unitarian Churches are (Reform) Jews. Mark JPAS summed it up well when he said "it is acceptable to blend some degree of foreign spiritual elements with Judaism. The one exception is Christianity, which is perceived to be incompatible with any form of Jewishness. So there is a double standard when it comes to Christianity.

Hope this helps.

"I am sure you have heard of the commandments God gave to Moses on Mt. Sinai? Read them again, this time paying careful attention ot the commandment regarding not having any other gods. Besides, as an avowed Christian who was devoted to Christ (the exact term you regularly used to use for Jesus) as recently as a year ago, you probably are not as familiar with the Torah as you claim."

So you are suggesting that the Jewish Messiah can't be God because???

Perhaps your ignorance of the Torah is the reason you apply the principles of the Torah unequally. Don't you know the Torah forbids this?

But thanks for attempting to use the Jewish scriptures. It is an improvement over most of your "contributions" which ask the same question over and over.

Using the Jewish written, written Torah that has the same original manuscripts as the OT,

Ex 24:9 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel; 10 and they saw the G-d of Israel; and there was under His feet the like of a paved work of sapphire stone, and the like of the very heaven for clearness. 11 And upon the nobles of the children of Israel He laid not His hand; and they beheld G-d, and did eat and drink.

http://www.hareidi.org/bible/Exodus24.htm#1

Obviously, Moses encountered God as Yeshua's disciples encountered God. The Holy Spirit, (the third person of the Trinity that non-Messianic Jews also believe in but have no clue whether to classify as God because of the Trinity issue) fulfilled Joel's prophesy. Like the other prophets including Moses (but unlike the Rabbis who freely admit they can't) the disciples were able to hear the voice of God.

So Marcuss, what is your personal view on this passage that I quoted from the Torah that all Jews would agree?

***Jews insist they are definitely not following Judaism*** IF you are going to speak for ALL Jews, speak on this one passage or any passage where you are able to back up your claim with sources that prove you have united all Jews.

Please quote your singular interpretation that all Judaism HAVE agreed and how you know all Jews have agreed. Or know that in addition to mishandling the principles found in the Torah about not showing partiality, you are guilty of misrepresenting the true Jewish position.

Ball is in your court.

As far as I know they are basically Christian but have kept alot more Jewish tradition in their faith.

Christianity and Judaism were the same religion 2009 years ago before Jesus Christ was born, the Old Testament and Jewish Tanakh are pretty much identical. The difference is that Christians accepted Christ as the Messiah where as regular Jews didn't. Alot of Christians see their faith as the continuation of the Jewish faith and this group is very vocal about that.

Personally I dont think the name matters at all, Christian or Messianic Jew it's what you believe that actually matters.

Not much has changed in 5 years from what I can see from this question & others like it! LOL

I thought the Messianic Jews were the Mel Gibson and the Passion people. Yeshua and speaking Aramaic.

It is just putting a new spin on something to market it in a way that appeals to non traditional people.

Basically, if you believe that Jesus, Yeshua, whatever is the Messiah, then you are a Christian. There are many types of Christian religions from Roman Catholic to the various Protestant churches (Lutheran, Baptist, etc).

That whole bit about Messianic Jews being the True Jews is an insult to Jews.

Christianity not Judaism

Jesus was jewish, so I feel they have a new

understanding...

The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed

and

The New Testament is the Old Testament revealed.

They are the 144,000

spoke of in Revelation and will be going to

heaven.

( comment on 2nd part of your question )

Jesus got accussed of committing blasphemy to.

I hear He got nailed to a tree for it.

eehh- I dont have a desire to get in the middle

of what seems to be an ongoing argument

between a few of you good folks

but would like to tell the Good News..

A poster wrote that

"Christianity has never been defined as belief in Jesus and this belief does not define the meaning of Christian."

Jesus in the New Testament is the final sacrifice,

the Lamb of God. Jesus Christ , a "Christ"ian,

one who believes that Jesus is the Living Sacrifice, the Passover Lamb. That is the very

reason people are Christians. The meaning of

Christian is a person with

a changed heart, He gave His life for you!

And we hear and do what He says, because He

did make that sacrifice for us.

This is the first time the word Christian appears

in the New Testament..

Acts11:26..

1.Acts 11:26 (Whole Chapter)

And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

In that very same chapter, verse 17, they speak

of believing in Jesus, Infact, the entire book of

Acts speaks about believing in the Lord.

And if you read it very closely, Acts 2:38-39,

and compare it to Matt 28:19,, the apostles

also realized that Jesus is the name of the

Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and baptized in

the name of Yeshua..

Acts 2:38, 8:15, 10:48,19;5 and then read 20:28.

A bible reading Christian understands who He

really was. Aint it a trip when you realize the

Lord Himself gave His life for you !!!!

Bottom line, I believe Jesus is God and I got

baptized in His Holy Ghost and He lives in my

heart, and I am one of many who read the bible

and like the apostles, figured out the parable

of Matt 28:19 and Isaiah 9:6. Jesus , the child born

is the

Mighty God and Everlasting Father