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Nation Sales Tax? Do away with the IRS ? Everybody pays the same?
20% across the board for everything purchased. Everybody pays the same rather legal or illegal. The government can't threaten you with the IRS. The people of the country would get a true accounting of how much money there is. It would get rid of most of the corruption in the the government(you will always have a crook somewhere). It would take away alot of the power of the elitists in government. And there in lays the problem. These elitist snobs will never cede any power they have attained. Their whole reason to exist is the keep grabbing more and more power until they have total power over every aspect of their subjects. National sales tax? Yes or No?
20% is an arbitrary figure. It could work as a graduated sales tax. The libs are always after the rich guy,aren't they? 20% for income over $200,000 and graduated down from there. I never been in with this tax the rich thing,thats the libs. I believe they made it let'em keep it.
With the IRS no one knows how much money comes to the government. With the national sales tax retail would know how much they took in and how much the government took. Ala, accountability. There again this government has never and never will be accountable for anything. There again this would never pass the government smell test.
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- Lee BLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
I like the cut of your jib, but I think you answered your question. The IRS is here to stay as long as the U.S. govt. and two party political system remains. Ah, but a man can dream...
- 1 decade ago
No matter what you do, it's going to be complicated.
I'm highly fiscally conservative, and I don't advocate those under a certain income level pay a dime.
The best offset that I've heard to this is; every American receives a check at the beginning of every month for the poverty-level offset to the NST. For example; @ 10%, a single person making $12,000 a year would receive a check for $100 (or adjusted for whatever due to non-taxation of food, clothing, etc. I'll leave that to the financial gurus). For each child (ssn), another hundred, etc. Everyone would receive it.. but to someone making $250K, a Benjamin won't really make a difference. It's a good concept in theory, but avoiding fraud would be pretty tough.
We've got to figure out how to get rid of the IRS somehow.
- 5 years ago
The IRS is the muscle that collects money to make sure the FED gets it's interest payments on the money it loans to the government. They aren't known for their sense of humor, they aren't part of the Treasury Dept., and they aren't subject to the normal laws that apply to everyone else. Unless you're ready to take on a fight you can't win you shouldn't mess with the IRS any more than you should mess with the mob. You may be totally right and in accordance with the U.S. Constitution, but the only way you could win is if we had an honest government that actually worked for the American people (don't hold your breath waiting for one).
- SordenhiemerLv 71 decade ago
No. It would harm the lowest income people much more. The have to spend most of the money they make to survive. This means they would be paying close to 20% tax on their income. Wealthy people, on the other hand, have wealth AND income. Wealth is the amount of money they they have left over after they have purchased what they require to live. This wealth would then be able to grow at a huge rate without being taxed at all. This means that wealthy people would pay way less than 20% on their income. Not really fair.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
Mike Huckabee has been campaigning the Fair Tax movement since before he put in his bid for president. I throughly support the idea. It would take care of so many problems that we as a country spend so much money on, like "the drug war" and illegal immigration. Everyone would have to pay taxes if they wanted to live and eat.
The IRS is a corrupt waste of money and time, and there are too many ways around paying taxes. We need to get rid of it.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It will never happen. What they will do is a national sales tax on top of the income tax. Do you realize how much of any product you buy is tax? I know that the stock tax on a new vehicle is anywhere from 5 to 10 thousand dollars. Everything already is taxed. Gas,food, beer, tobacco, tv, radio,. These taxes sometimes account for half of an items cost.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Not sure but it sounds like a step in the right direction. I totally agree do away with the IRS after were doe auditing them and charging them with any fines and penalties which should equal te national Debt. Kick those feds back to France and Britain!
Fire up the Us mint and print debt free money and sure tax what we need.
- JimLv 71 decade ago
Before the passage of the 16th amendment, taxes were apportioned equally to everyone. But people were not happy with that system either. The wealthy should pay more taxes. The French revolted in 1789 because their nobles were not paying their fair share. Your system will lead to another American Revolution.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
No Call this what it is. A Value Added Tax and,the last thing we need in this economy is a value added tax. Also it would not eliminate the IRS it would simply shift their duties to enforcement and, collection of this new tax.
- 1 decade ago
Yes! We have the most complicated tax code in the world and it is very unfair and full of loopholes. Did you know that the IRS is a private corporation?! If it was 20% at the federal level it would have to cover the city, county/parish, and state too. I live in Louisiana and it is already 9%, which would make it 29% and that is ridiculous.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Every Republican or conservative tax reform idea has the 'incidental' effect of getting rid of progressive taxes and replacing them with regressive taxes. Sales tax is the MOST regressive tax. It costs the poor and middle class much more, proportionately, than the rich and corporations.
On the other hand, when you say it would get rid of corruption in government, actually you have a point. The income tax code is extremely complicated, and this is to hide special favors. Every 'reform' promised to simplify the tax code ends up making it more complicated than it was before, like Reagan's tax reform, which was originally supposed to be a 'flat tax'. For a while, lots of politicians, of both parties, had 'flat tax' plans, but now they see that this isn't the way to go.
I agree with you that our government is too corrupt. But the driver of this corruption is campaign financing. We have made money too important in politics. Both parties get their money from the same places, so you can't expect their real agendas to be all that different. Richard Nixon spent $20 million to get elected in 1968. Obama spent SIX HUNDRED MILLION to get elected in 2008. I think that's just outrageous. Federal financing of elections would cost us a few million but would save a hundred times that in the long run.
As for a national sales tax, what it basically means is that someone who spends all his income to live gets taxed on the whole amount, but people who make enough to put away some money save on taxes, and people who put away MOST of their money save the most. This means that the rich just get richer and richer, while the working poor struggle to survive. I don't think that's a good idea.