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Dana1981 asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 1 decade ago

Did deniers run out of cold weather events to talk about?

I haven't seen any deniers talk about how the planet can't be warming because their local weather is cold for the past few days. Anthony Watts has even resorted to referencing the Buenos Aires snow even from 2 years ago.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/18/flashbacksno...

Which was in 2007, which coincidentally ended up being one of the hottest years on record.

I wonder if the deniers would melt in California, where soon we'll be pushing 2 straight weeks of weather in the 100°F range.

http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USCA0967?fr...

What's the deal - did deniers run out of cold weather events to talk about?

Update:

Starbuck, the average July temperature for San Diego is 77°F.

http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USCA0982?fr...

So your claims of a 'cool year' appear, schockingly, unfounded.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I guess cherries are out of season.

    Edit: I see there are still people having trouble with that word "global".

    Oh and "credible" too.

  • 1 decade ago

    @googabee: You actually install your AC here in CT? I live in North Haven, but have also spent many summers in Torrington. I must say, you're pretty wimpy if you ever need AC to deal with a Connecticut summer. And even if you do need it, most people I know don't turn it on until August anyways.

    Additionally, to counter your crap about a cold Canadian summer, I'll mention the blazing Texan summer. It's been in the 100's for days now, which is bad even for there.

    That said, let me remind you that global warming is on the scale of 1*F every decade or two. It's not like you should expect a swath of record highs from a global mean increase of 1*F ever ten or twenty years.

    I'd say it's easier to turn your denier brain off and actually listen to people who know what they're talking about, like the IPCC, NASA, NOAA, NAS, AAAS, etc. And for the record, FoxNews has no clue what they're talking about so don't turn off your brain and listen to them instead.

  • 1 decade ago

    i'm in hartford, ct. new england's electric use for the month of june was down 12.2% under last year. i can't remember a cooler summer. not just a few days at all up here.

    i live on the top floor of my building. under a black roof and with a west facing brick wall that really absorbs the late day sun.

    i was amazed when i made it to july without installing my AC. normally i have to get it in there by june. we've not had a single heat wave, and we've come close to 90 degrees only a few times.

    it's now july 20th... and i still have not installed my AC.

    go to accuweather and type in ANY city. go to 'forecasts' and check the historical weather (it covers the last 2 months). you'll likely see that temps everywhere are well within the normal range, with no more record highs than there are record lows. this is pretty much true everyplace i've checked.

    you may also be interested in how canada's crops have been performing. they are at risk due to a colder than normal season, and folks are quite worried about an early frost.

    i just wish you would keep an open mind about the possibility that you've been had.

  • ?
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

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  • bubba
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    1 decade ago

    Oh heck, I might as well give them some fuel. We have dropped from over 100 last week and drought to chances of rain and upper 80s to low 90s (normal to a little cooler). Do I need to pull my snow packs and parka out to get ready for August? Is this proof of "global cooling/"

    At least if they are talking idiotic stuff like "it's cold at my house today, is it from global cooling?", you can just post any of 100 links to show the absurdity of these statement. Most people can read a graph and understand the are trying to generalize a trend without considering a time span that will allow them to do that.

    http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/

    BTW - keep that 100F temps there - we have are past our quota for the year!!!!

  • 1 decade ago

    The local weather this week or any week is just noise on a long term trend with a signal to noise ratio of 0.001 or less. People learn and adapt. Perhaps many people that referred to local weather in the past as a negative indication of global warming have moved on to more intelligent (or at least different) questions.

  • 1 decade ago

    Gee Dana in San Diego, we are experiencing a very cool year, some days even got into the high 80's but nights are back to perfect.

    I think it is just weather, but the globe is in a cycle and like all cycles what goes up comes down and that will occur again probably sooner than most would like.

    How did the world's people survive without people like Dana and the rest of the alarmists to yell the sky is falling everytime there was some bad weather. I do, however, miss the good old lightning and thunderstorms and tornados of the midwest. California is so boring when it comes to weather.

  • The Weather Service is expecting a warmer winter for us. Wonder what they'll say about that.

  • 1 decade ago

    C'mon Dana, you've gotta admit "Ottawa Mike" has some very convincing arguments of his own.

    Just for a moment, forget all this conflicting science. Forget the graphs and charts. As you know from answering a recent question of mine, I've been travelling extensively around the world, and NOWHERE has anyone told me they feel they are experiencing global warming. In fact, most every place is cooler than expected.

    It is now JULY 20, and with the exception of a few elusive days in May we haven't had ONE SINGLE DAY OF SUMMER IN PRAGUE YET. Don't just gloss over this! I'm telling you that for the last 50 days we haven't had even one day when you could lay outside and get a suntan. FIFTY DAYS AND COUNTING, Dana.

    My sister still lives in Chicago. This is an email she wrote me about last: "I had a jacket, so I wouldn't have been too cold, except I was wearing slides/sandals..my toes were really cold after an hour and 15 minutes. We went to Starbucks for decaf coffee afterwards to warm up." So, in the MIDDLE OF JULY she had to "warm up" with some hot coffee? Dana, where the heck is all this supposed global warming taking place?

    I just returned from Crete and Santorini. OK, Santorini is hot as hell, but they say this is normal. But they don't notice any increase in average temperature, and this should be something on YOUR side of the argument. People normally exaggerate the weather, so they'd be more inclined to complain about broiling hot days.

    And speaking of exaggeration, your link to the California weather shows three days out of ten where it was in excess of ninety degrees. That is not anything remarkable.

    Dana, come to Prague. If anything will dissuade you from this global warming obsession you have, a trip here might do the trick. I'll try my best to get you a few minutes with President Vaclav Klaus, who will tell you why he considers global warming to be an incredible sham.

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    EDIT: I invite Ottawa Mike to contact me!!

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I dunno, it was in the 50's all week.

    Then again, the hypocritical alarmists say: "If it's hot, it's global warming, if it's cool, it's just weather."

    Always.

    And you know, 100 degrees in California is nothing new. That doesn't even touch the record that was reached way before "Global Warming" was a twinkle in Al Gore's eye.

  • 1 decade ago

    Nope!

    Here’s a list of some areas that broke records in winter (2007/08):

    The average temperature across the contiguous U.S. during the climatological winter (December 2007–February 2008) was the coolest since 2001. In the contiguous United States, the average winter temperature was 33.2 degrees F, which was 0.2 degree F above the 20th century average—yet still ranks as the coolest since 2001. It was the 54th coolest winter since national records began in 1895.

    Winter temperatures were warmer than average from Texas to the Southeast and along the Eastern Seaboard, while cooler-than-average temperatures stretched from much of the upper Midwest to the West Coast.

    In Iowa, it was the 19th coldest winter on record; California's ranked 27th in terms of cold.

    Winter precipitation was much above average from the Midwest to parts of the West, notably Kansas, Colorado and Utah. During January alone, 170 inches of snow fell at the Alta ski area near Salt Lake City, Utah, more than twice the normal amount for the month, eclipsing the previous record of 168 inches that fell in 1967.

    Mountain snow pack exceeded 150 percent of average in large parts of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Oregon at the end of February.

    Snowfall was much above normal across a significant portion of the Midwest north of the Ohio River.

    Snowfall was four to six times normal amounts from eastern Iowa to eastern Wisconsin. Seasonal snowfall totals at many locations from northern Illinois through southern Wisconsin were more than twice the norm and in the top ten snowiest seasons on record. By the end of February, Madison, Wisconsin had accumulated 89.8 inches of snow, smashing the previous seasonal snowfall record of 76.1 inches of snow in the winter of 1978–1979.

    Record February precipitation in the Northeast helped make the winter the fifth wettest on record for that region. New York had its all-time wettest winter, while Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Vermont, and Colorado to the west, had their second wettest. Four states, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont, also had their wettest February in 114 years.

    Snowfall was also above normal in northern New England, where some locations posted all-time record winter snow totals. On March 21—the first full day of spring—Caribou, Maine broke its snowfall record when a blizzard roared through Aroostook County, dumping up to 17 inches; the official snowfall at Caribou reached 182.5 inches, breaking the old record of 181.1. "It’s been an incredible year," Lee Foster, meteorologist at the National Weather Service said. "These are not the kind of records we want to break."

    Concord, N.H., received 100.1 inches, which was 22.1 inches above the previous record set during the winter of 1886–87.

    Burlington, Vt., received 103.2 inches, which was 6.3 inches above the previous record set during the winter of 1970–71. Much of the precipitation fell as snow or a rain-snow mix in northern New England. Snow depth at the end of February in Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont ranged from 20 to 75 inches. The combination of the snow and rain resulted in an unusually heavy snow load on area buildings, causing roof leaks and collapses. Frequent snow and ice storms throughout this winter put a strain on the supply of road salt, especially in small towns that don't have the resources to stockpile large quantities of the product; many scrambled to find supplies, often at inflated prices, dipping into already strained winter budgets.

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