Why do the con lemmings here support the insurance companies?

Wow Karl, brilliant observation, thank you.

I've often wondered that myself. I have friends who are diabetics who have insurance but are denied care. Why? Because it's a preexisting condition that's why. Insurance companies are thrilled to take your money but if you get sick they'd rather you die than to pay you back. In most cases, having insurance is worse than having nothing at all.

As far as I can tell, people are so spooked by the socialism stigma that they'd rather die than get help from anyone, especially if it comes to the government. They're terrified that the government will dictate what doc you'll see, when and what tests you'll have. Or they think (and this is the funniest excuse as far as I'm concerned) all the hospitals will become state instead of privately run, and they'll all look like VA hospitals.

Little do these people know, or realize, the VA hospitals are owned and operated by the military, not by the federal government.

After spending over two years bedfast with a surgical corrective but serious ailment, and finall finally getting help from a state run agency, I'm not the least bit worried about government run health care.

It's appalling to me that we, the greatest nation in the world can't take care of our own.

Where to find the funding to help ourselves? Simple. Quit hemmorhagging money in Iraq and quit sending billions of our tax dollars over to foreigh countries. Especially the ones who hate our guts. Not all of it, but enough to take care of ourselves.

Charity should start at home, after all.

I support no insurance company for I have no insurance. That's my choice, and that's the way I want it, that's called freedom, I know,that's something totally foreign to you liberals who want the government controlling every aspect of people's lives. Why ? Should I be forced to pay into a government system when I choose right now for myself to have no insurance ? You take a long hard honest look at government pal , and then you look at private insurers, and if you are truly honest with yourself, you can't deny private insurers are far better than having a government controlled system. Why would you even consider handing over the health care system to a government that has repeatedly failed in every venture it's taken on ? God bless.

I have to disagree with you on control. I can choose which big insurance company I want to support. Our government has a monopoly. There is only one government and we have no control there.

The problem with private health care is that we have to have competition to control cost. Unfortunately we don't choose doctors based on price, nor do we really pay them for performance. The doctors and hospitals don't compete with each other for patients. The drug companies have long term patents for there products which creates another monopoly.

That's why we have such spiraling costs. The insurance companies are the only control we have over health care costs right now, and at least they compete with each other. I can't see the government, given a monopoly over health care, doing a better job. Look at education. We spend more and more money and get ever diminishing returns. I am afraid that government will do the same to health care.

Some people support free enterprise. Some people think demanding insurance after you get sick is like demanding auto insurance cover an accident you had before you were insured. Rationing health care is what the govt is going to do. Not the insurance c ompanies. And don't worry, The Marxist is going to control the insurance companies. They will go bankrupt and we can all have the right to die on a waiting list.

It's kind of unfortunate that you use the same logic to pick your politicians. You can't elect a government, you can elect one person at a time to fill the role within a machine that's already running, and running poorly at best. At least the insurance companies had something to lose when they F-ed up...profit. When the government F-s up, what do they lose? What have they lost since 2000?

Actually, insurance companies do not deny and ration care. They adhere to the terms of the contracts that they have with their customers. You will not get this kind of commitment from the government. The government will make bureaucratic decisions based on politics. In other words, under Obamacare, you may THINK you have health insurance, but then, when you need a hip replacement or cancer surgery, you may discover that the government has decided to save some money by not giving you the treatment that you need. Instead, an end-of-life counselor will come to your door and tell you to screw yourself and die.

I don't defend insurance companies. But, I know and everyone knows that the government has never and will never run a program that is financially secure and doesn't put the burden on the working class! pass laws to regulate health insurance, force the company's to carry all at the same rates, but do not ask our government to become an insurance company!

I think that they envision them as free enterprise. In this, they are mistaken. Many large corporations (especially insurers) obtain significant advantages through political influence.

In an environment of true free enterprise though, I have to strenuously disagree with your last statement. I'll demonstrate with a thought experiment. You take a government that you don't like and change it. Go pull your voting lever. See what happens. I'll take a corporation that I don't like and stop giving it money.

In your effort, it is likely that the government will continue to take your money and do other things that you don't like. My effort is more likely to result in the corporation being out of my life. I grant, though, that it is possible for corporations to also be abusive and invasive, their major current method being, as I wrote above, through political influence.

I see lemmings in every corner of the political spectrum. People are eager to support power of one nature or another. They all fail to realize that power, whatever its source, tends to corrupt. The notion that you have control over political government is a fantasy.

I agree, especially as the USA health care system is the single biggest killer of its own population by far. It is geared up to sell its products and plays on peoples fears. You may go to see a doctor for some problem and they say, that eyelash is growing in the wrong direction, it may not cause any problems but just to be on the safe side, you should have an operation. It will cost $100000.00, its expensive but it could save your life. You go and ruin yourself for a cosmetic blemish where the drugs given reduce your life span or kill you anyway.

They label the symptoms of problems as a disease, mystifying the whole thing, ie Cancer should be called, sluggish immune syndrome. Not some meaningless label. The cause and cures for ALL diseases was discovered decades ago. Nobel prize winning research totally ignored in favor of expensive drugs and surgeries, that are totally unnecessary. The cures are very cheap and simple. :)

http://www.ash-info.com/ASH%20RESEARCH%20GUIDE%20-...

Practicing Shaman... quantum physics rocks.

The insurance industry is the most regulated segment of the entire economy. The insurance companies are struggling to turn a profit while still crossing every "t" and dotting every "i" while jumping through a few thousand hoops. Why would we be against free enterprise?