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Rebubs: please be so kind as to explain your views on citizen healthcare to us...?

...WITHOUT using the following words:

1) "money" (or any derivative of that word relating to it).

2) "Socialism" (as we all know single payer - even though it is nowhere near Socialism - itself is not even being considered in Congress).

and

3) "President Obama" (and yes, either of those two words).

I think it would be quite interesting to hear where you stand not as an economic citizen of our country...but simply as a human being.

Since it appears you always have the "right" answers - as you are want to continuously say - I am sure this will not be overly difficult for you...

...or - in a humane and logical sense - will it?

Anyway...can you do it (and yes, this is my question here)?

Update:

Mopar mike: an incorrect analogy on your part. Even though I am a stone Atheist, I still value human life over any of the words I mentioned. Since you claim to be a man of god, I would think you would be even more in favor of all human rights than I am...correct?

Update 2:

Moose: could you expound on that further?

Update 3:

Maxwell: ah, but - as you claim - why exactly do those programs "not work"? Any more details you are able to provide?

Update 4:

zaza; you may be happy with your care now...but in your case, what happens when you lose your job, COBRA runs out and then you get quite ill? Do you just go away somewhere to die when you get sick? Help me understand here...

Update 5:

Matt: although I could not disagree with you more on the issue of healthcare and the reform of it, I will say you pegged the intent of my question exactly...philosophy. Plus, your answer is from the heart, and I respect it...although again I disagree with your premise. Thank you.

Update 6:

-: why do you think everything that happens legally here must emanate from the Constitution? Where are public roads, police and firefighters, and all the multitudes of other things we ALL pay for in the Constitution? They are not...proving that document is a flexible one, and not some rigid, unyielding pillar of olden times.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    You are asking for the purely philosophical perspective, then? I can provide mine. I don't believe that anyone owes me a damn thing. I have my brain and my two hands as my means of production. I believe that within every human there is a heroic being waiting to escape. Give a man hardship and make him fight to fulfill his wants and needs and you will produce a man of character and great worth. Give a man all he needs and you will produce a fat slob living in his parent's basement.

    Our world consists of individuals acting freely according to their own selfish interests. From this chaotic system, however, emerges a society as a whole wherein goods and services are rationed to those who need it the most.

    Consider Florida. They have price freezes during hurricanes. It is illegal to raise the price of a generator or hotel room during a hurricane. The law is designed to prevent vendors from taking advantage of consumers. The goods that are affected, however, always run out in an emergency. If people were allowed to sell generators for whatever price they wanted, then entrepreneurs would ship them in from other states at great cost and sell them for a profit. People would split hotel rooms with their neighbors instead of leaving families to sleep in their cars. The point of this rant is to illustrate why I don't exactly trust government - no matter what their intention - of doing what is best for everyone.

    Source(s): There are two main problems I have with everything I've heard about this proposed plan: the big picture and the details.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    ZAZA - they're forgetting a number of people that are in my situation. My family's income is just over the limit for medicaid, so we don't have that option and neither my or my husband's jobs offer health care. So we're stuck. Covering a family of 4 without having the option through work is an outrageous price. And when my husband was working for a company who provided health care, the monthly payment was over $800 - and we still had all the co-pays and premiums on top of that. For a family of 4 making $3000 per month, it's just not possible to pay $800 in health insurance. Not after you add up the mortgage (modest payment - no $300,000 homes here), car payments (nothing new by the way) car/home insurance, utilities, groceries and other basic necessities - the money just isn't there. All of these analysts say that we're making the choice as to whether or not we have health care, but really we're not. It's feed the family or pay for health insurance. What good will insurance do us if we're homeless and starving?

  • 1 decade ago

    Good luck! Remember that many also use the terms euthanasia. I am amazed that so many Americans are not aware about Obama’s healthcare plans. During the election, he campaigned for these changes [2] stating that he felt it was unfair to have a system where insurance companies try to escape paying claims [3].

    Remember, he was elected to bring in these changes, elected by the American people who want healthcare reform. And he discussed his plans in debates with McCain, and he still won the election [4].

    First of all, too many people do not know that Obama wants to make insurance more available to all. His system is similar to that which works in Holland and Switzerland [5]. It works there and private healthcare companies provide most the insurance to the people there.

    FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet [6].

    FACT – insurance companies admit that they push up costs, buy politicians and do not pay out for many claims when they should [7]

    FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage [8].

    That means that a dead American four yea

  • 1 decade ago

    The current government run system does not work (medicaid/medicare). Why should we believe that a new program which is currently designed to cover fewer people, (leaving more people uncovered than there are today), would be run any better?

    there..i think i avoided all your bad words..

    ADD: Because the government is not a good company. They are inefficient in getting things done. I have no reason to believe that the government will suddenly be able to become efficient just because there is an idea for a new bill. The corruption within the government, and the special interests and the protection of representatives constituent districts and states tends to make those inadequacies within the government worse.

    In the end, when it comes to providing care that will save a life, efficiency is VERY important, because delays cost lives, or in lesser instances, can ruin lives, or cause needless suffering.

    the rest violates the rules...so feel free not to read on.

    (now to violate your rules. all of the above plus, covering fewer people while spending more money to do it makes no sense.)

    Source(s): ADD: At first I was annoyed at the constraints you put on the answers..but actually i think it is an interesting exercise. It didn't change my mind, but it made me re-evaluate all the reasons to stand against the government being in charge of healthcare, not just the financial ones.
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    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    I want to be in control of my own health care, not the government. The health care proposals that are being put forth are unconstitutional in every sense. So if you care about the constitution and your rights, you should oppose this like any other good American would.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I don't belong to any political party. I prefer to remain independent. However, from a logical point of view, in our current economic condition, making rash - rush - decisions appear more as experiment to me, a costly one we can't afford. Revamping an entire health care system that supports so many people takes time, caution, and care.

    The Obama administration is playing with our lives and our money. That's the bottom line.

  • JAUNIE
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    vino:

    The whole industry, is, has been, totally a monopoly. Run by, for, the health care industry. They have looted every american through out the past 25 years, its ALL about MONEY. Taking your entire working lifetime of earnings.

    Source(s): Hospitals charging 1400 dollars, to remove a piece of dirt, from your eye.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    This is equivalent to asking " Hey Republicans, I want you to talk about human anatomy without once referring to the human body " You ask a question and than predetermine ahead of time how it's to be answered ? <rolls eyes> God bless.

    Edit: For you to be correct would assume health care is 1. a right, (which it's not) and 2. Is a responsibility for me and other tax payers to pay for that right ( which we're not) So no, you are not correct.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    speaking of money the insurance companys are spending 1.5 million dollars a day fighting health care reform ,130 million in the past 90 days to keep things the same ,they are now paying people to protest at congressmens town hall meetngs . Its a good thing they are looking out for us ,hahaha

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I like my heath care. It is my responsibility. I take care of that responsibility myself. I am not responsible for the health care of others.

    According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), about half of the uninsured in 2009 fall into one of the following three categories. Some people will be in more than one of those categories at the same time:

    Nearly one out of three, 30%, will be offered, but will decline, coverage from an employer.

    Nearly one out of five, 18%, will be eligible for, but not enrolled in Medicaid; and

    More than one out of seven, 17%, will have family income above 300% of the poverty level (about $65,000 for a family of four);

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