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Are you open minded and willing to explore truth or are you happy to continue living a lie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM
I have delved deeper into the prospect of Nibiru passing through our solar system, and I am now totally convinced that this thing is real. It has been very difficult to reach this conclusion, due to the misleading deceptive information woven around this subject. I hope that some of you guys will explore this area with an open heart and mind, because what I have found is absolutely astonishing, and I know that those of you who possess an evolved level of thinking will connect with the many interesting points of information, regarding this area and will on this journey, eventually reach the same truth. It is important to view both sides of this subject, those who are against and those who are well connected. Most of the mainstream scientists and governments know the truth about this planet and it is well documented in ancient texts.
I don't just believe anything, or follow emotional hysteria. I glean truth from cross referencing and paying attention to distinctly similar patterns of descriptions, while listening to my feelings concerning that which I am viewing. The reality of this planet arriving is severely subdued by the powerful echelons of society who manipulate mass consciousness into believing that this is nonsense, and those who are willing to expose this truth are quickly ridiculed and are stigmatised as being loony toons.
There are thousands of scare mongering sites and doom day sayers, and uninformed individuals who build up strong convincing evidence to support the non existence of this thing and there are many who do the same for the belief in the existence of this thing. However, there are reliable sources with credible highly respected backgrounds who are trying to take the lid off to expose this reality, which governments are very concerned about. Bless You!
It is important to view the whole video, before submitting your answer. This is just 1 of 100 that I have been viewing, if you are wanting more, just let me know. Bless You!
John M. I understand something is going to happen, when or how - I don't think any one really knows the time and date of this planet arriving. One thing is for certain is that we have lost fifty years of polar ice in two years and we are experiencing evident earth changes in regard to erratic weather conditions and it is scientific fact that mars and outer planets are also quickly warming up. Something is clearly happening and has been happening for some time, I do not believe this whole rubbish about climate change due to over population. This is just something that governments feed media to get you to believe that what is happening can be controlled by individual and collective change. Change and proper treatment of our planet is always good. However, It is just another money making scheme and strategy to conceal the truth about the severe changes that we are all going to experience.
John M
Here are few reputable links about the ice melting on mars and effects on outer planets.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s18903...
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_sola...
There are hundreds to choose from.
Like I said, It is about connecting all the information gleaned and decerning the truth from the rubbish. I have read many views from people like yourself, but I would never accept one mans projection of subjective conjectures about this event happening or not happening. Even when I began to explore this area, I wasn't for nor against. You can not prove that this thing does not exist, yet I could lead you to information from people who are far more qualified than me and you, and those who also have the ability to interpret ancient knowlege and texts.
Philogos... I agree it is all based on his word, but when you look into other sources there are intriguing startling similarities and the energy signature of what they are stating is the same. I have just placed this one up as a starting point. I am not asking anyone to make a conclusion based on one you tube vid. Bless you!
I know quite a bit about remote viewing through my own practise and through some buddhist monks and there is also evidence and strong cases to support that it does work. It just depends on the individual who is doing it.
Goverments actually used this method and produced amazing results.
During its lifetime, the remote viewing unit collected intelligence against a broad range of targets: strategic missile forces, political leaders, narcotics operations, research and development facilities, hostage situations, military weapons systems, secret installations, technology developments, terrorist groups; the list was staggering, and the successes were many - i
philogos... - in some cases, even spectacular.
http://www.rviewer.com/How_Did_RV_Begin.html
This does somewhat contradict your claim as remote viewing being rubbish. I would never present somthing as being false, even if I perosnally believed it to be so, because I know that there would be many others who are successful in this method. Bless You!
Little by little a picture seems to be forming and eventually the truth will be revealed. No lie in the world will be able to conceal the radical changes of this planet, which are due to come.
Century2...
I'm guessing that you are not aware of a planet recently discovered in the outer solar system, We can all speculate about this planet being or not being what the Sumerians wrote down in their texts and other cultures accounts on the devastating magnitude caused by adverse earth and weather changes.
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/ne...
check the above link
Scientists did not discover that the object in these pictures was a planet until Jan. 8, 2005. Samuel Oschin
The only problem with making critical thinking a daily occupation, is that it is also very critical of truth, to the point where it can actually miss the truth in the process of formulating a critical argument. The critical quality is very limmiting, we are all naturally critical to a certain point. However, it is not my wish to be someone who discounts something as being rubbish based on subjective conjectural interpretations of something that could be true. I already have reached my level of truth in regard to this area. I prefer to see everything as being possible this is more productive in searching for truth for me, it keeps me open and receptive to countless possibilities. Open the mind and allow your feelings to be your guide and it will take you to where you need to be to fill the gaps. Bless You!
John M, You tube is a very good medium, if you know how to use it. You are also making an inaccurate assumption in stating, 'I choose my learnings from you tube'. I look into various sources of scientific and non main stream realms of science. Bless You!
I do not thums down. Bless You!
http://www.uk-ufo.co.uk/2009/07/ketterin%E2%80%A6
If you saw what I witnessed on 18/07/09 you too would be prepared to search deep into those areas that you once used to discedit. Bless You!
philogos... Bless You!
You have your path and I have mine. Why do you think so many exceptional scientists have been reduced to being loony toons, when they have chosen to expose coverups. Because it deters people from looking deeper into their experience of truth. I would rather listen to those with scientific knowledge or backgrounds who speak up about things that are otherwise hidden from mainstream viewing. And also manistream information is usually filtered, distorted controlled, now this to me is madness, anything that does not conform to mainstream views is made out to be nonsense. And people believe in this veiled information and use this information to validate their disbeliefs or beliefs to which ever suits. We are led to believe there is nothing otherworldly existing outside this world. Now I know there is, not scientific fact, but I have seen for my self that is a fact. Anyone who is willing to sacrifice their livelyhoods and reputations will win my attention for
http://www.uk-ufo.co.uk/2009/07/kettering-18th-jul...
My blogger with witnesses of the same event can be seen here. Bless You!
I do appreciate all of your answers even though we hold different views.
I myself could pick this video to peices.
However, this guy is expressing his experience of truth, based on data supposededly not available to Mr average Joe Bloggs. It is beyond me how people can quickly throw this man on the rubbish pile. He talks of being connected to people in the know and being apart of a secret group and meeting E.Ts.
I could and never would reduce his claim, based on what I already know and what I have personally seen. In addition, it is madness in itself to state this video is rubbish or genuine. You and I are outsiders to his proclaimed experiences. He may be a fraud he may be genuine, however I have reached my truth and it is up to you guys to reach your own, not based on one you tube video. There are many like this one and the ones I have gleaned are consistent in their descriptions and their vibration also shows me they are speaking from a perspective of truth. Bless You!
BeiYin *The People Whisperer*
Nothing wrong with being critical, we are all critical to an extent. However, it is not my intention to make it an obsession.
There are other ways to explore information. I prefer to become and feel the information and freely surf the wave, so that I remain open to everywhere it leads me. My feelings and my thoughts work closely together to serve my quest for truth. There are truths that exist far above the accepted pathways to truth, but many are affraid to touch these truths, in fear of being ridiculed. When I explore I do not believe or disbelieve, I just simply enjoy the journey and when I feel and think I have enough information,
then I assess and build a picture of evidence to support a belief or disbelief. Bless You!
John M
I didn't believe or dis-believe the 2003 and I don't believe or disbelieve 2012.
I am not qualified or possess the ability to view the future. I think people pin this happening to dates to stir up fear and make money from those who are really concerned.
I have chosen to believe in this planet, due to my interpretaion of vibration from those who present this material and other methods of intercepting truth that I use. I could be wrong, I could be right you could be wrong or you could be right. It matters not. If this thing is going to happen, I'm sure it will happen in this genaration.
I have listened to the same skeptical information about ufos and believed it, for a long time, until I had an encounter of the first kind. I know that these things exist, so when I listen to people like that, which I have presented here, it seems very rational and plausable to me. There are many points of consciousness speaking exactly the same thing, truth does reside in this man.
I have always believed that other intelligent life forms exist, it would be illogical and absolute madness not accept this truth. This has always lurked somewhere inside me, but I allowed myself to be swayed by the sceptics, as I was young and naieve. I think you would need to see something like what I witnessed to want to listen seriously to someone who is talking about far out of this world stuff. I think I understand where most of you are coming from. The only thing that sparked my interest in this material, was through the unmistakable encounter that I had experienced. bless you!
BeiYin *The People Whisperer*
I agree it is difficult to decern truth from fiction, especially when the fiction sounds extremely plausable. I used the title for the question to introduce people to other possibilities of that which could hold truth. I am very careful about accepting something as apart of my thinking reality, but sometimes in order to establish truth one needs to become the information, this may mean entering through a point of a lie or truth to validate or invalidate its foundation. Bless You!
BeiYin *The People Whisperer*
I would like to read, and I'm sure that others would like to read what you are willing to present in general. It doesn't have to refer to the additional details. Bles You!
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Bob Dean when interviewed in this video, reminds me at myself, he is about the same age and looks pretty similar like me, so I managed to watch the whole video, waiting for something essential to come. But there was very little. With a few sentences he was talking in the first part about that we are creating our own reality, being manipulated by leaders and influences from the society and in the last part he spoke about the need that we go into a transformational change and that we must not have fear, because we are 'beings' beyond the appearance. But he didn't give any key how to get out of our limited state and so every thing else was not of interest for me because I know about the manipulation from 'above' as I have been receiving those information about Illuminati and extra terrestrials during the last fifty years and the most resent technical advances leave me indifferent, as these just give excitement and keep people busy but without any creative aspects.
I can answer your question more in general without relating to this video, first I want to respond to Soullight's comment:
BeiYin: For sure I'm not obsessed being critical, this is just my attitude as a result of my life long experiences and so knowing that it is hardly possible to trust anybody and anything, because of 'human nature' and that all is built on the big lie of this society and the created fake reality, that dominates people and allows the manipulation of the mass.
I agree with your way to find 'truth' that's a possibility, - I use instead of 'feeling' my intuition, that has become a tool I can trust, due to more than fifty years of meditation and seeking for truth, being aware of my limitations...
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You want my response to your question: "Are you open minded and willing to explore truth or are you happy to continue living a lie?"
My answer does not relate to the video:
Being 'open minded' is part of the self image of ones personality. It is a lie as part of the picture how people like to see themselves because this is pretending to be a modern and intelligent person.
'Personality is a closed system and like all systems, it is not open to any influences from outside, only to those that confirm and support the already established structure. Anything else will be rejected, ignored or attacked and if possible eliminated.
'Personality' as a state of evolution of mankind is in so far still like the state of animals, because based in the first place on survival needs and all behaviors, attitudes, interests and motivations for their actions are under this strong influence. So whatever the individual is doing, all engagements, the goals and mostly also all those spiritual intentions are ruled by this basic need of survival. Power has a leading role in those survival games and the same still like with animals, the strongest individuals with the most power are leading all others, that are just obedient followers. That's comfortable and doesn't need any own engagement. The followers can trust the leaders, because who is the strongest also will know what is the best, so that the species can survive.
That's the state of evolution of humankind. With the result, that evolution has gotten stuck and instead of that evolution continues in a creative growing process, it has become destructive and has brought humankind in a critical situation. Humans are not only destroying themselves, they have already destroyed the basic conditions of life for many species on this planet and a big number of them disappeared already.
Human evolution is stuck because people are totally identified with their properties in form of concepts given by this society and integrated into their personality. People are stuck in this and they don't want to get out of it, they are not really happy, even if they get what they desire, but mostly they want to continue with their lie and live the fake reality that gives them all they need, keeping them busy to survive.
Lying, pretending, all kind of tricks, even stealing are all part of survival means and even though controlled by the leaders because that's against their interests, people continue with this mostly unconscious behavior. So they go on with their lies and many tricks not only to survive with their needs, but as the most important with their need to hold on their personality and self image.
99,99% of all people who are 'exploring truth' are doing so with the intention to be confirmed in their own established truth. There is no 'open mind'. People are searching desperately and they find it: in books, in discussions, in TV, in groups, there is always something that fits into ones truth and then can be updated by an even more sophisticated concept of the same truth.
Pretty clear that humanity is living in a big game and there seems to be no way out. If some individuals show up and express themselves out of a more developed state of being, telling about a different way of life, then these are ignored, ridiculed or eliminated. Or their expression is made into a new concept that fits into the other.
Wanting to find a solution by going to the outside, up to the space exploring other cosmic places, connecting with other beings from more advanced planets and so on, - will not bring any creative solution. It just contributes to the common game and is still part of the existing fake reality.
The way out only can happen, when the individual gets to know oneself, finds out about human nature and the usual survival games. Then getting out of dependencies and taking self responsibility. That is quite a lot of work and only can be done if the individual is ready for it. Probably after being through a lot of suffering and desperation. But as there is a *growing force* inbuilt in all alive beings, so finally the individual connects with this force in a conscious way and then finds the path out of ones personality jungle and then being able to confront *reality* and then being able to relate and respond in a new way...
BeiYin
Source(s): Being critical all my life and asking questions about my existence and what I am receiving from the outside... - Anonymous1 decade ago
I am open minded and willing to explore the truth, in fact being stuck to ages old assumption is the biggest obstacle in your way to truth,
well sorry as i have not watched the whole video, but i do believe in the existence of tenth planet called '2003UB313'
i don't know wot's the point to disagree with this,
but yes there was some confusion abt naming an astronomical object as a planet or not, even pluto was put outside the family of planets, but as much as i know nibiru is bigger than pluto so might be considered as a planet, but the point is what is the real definition of a planet, even if we construct a well defined criteria for a planet based on it's mass and distance from sun, we can not find the real difference between a planet and an asteroid because all the classification is based on our convenience, we have a habit to put the things in a pre decided category and when we get something to denying this fact we get obsessed and put the questions on it's existence,,
bless you
- GodZukiLv 51 decade ago
Alright I watched up until the 40 second mark and came to the conclusion Kernel Sanders there isn't going to tell me anything I don't already know about Nibiru. I'm all for theorising possible future events and cracking the conspiracies of prior events, it runs through my blood, my Grandfather was diagnosed 7th stage schizophrenic for the lengths he went to to discredit certain governments for his knowledge of the correlation between every nuclear bomb ever set of and the impending arrival of solar flares. What he lacks though is the show pony eccentric attitude and halloween costume, he's just a pot smoking 50 something year old guy that claims to be able to speak with aliens through his computer and can sit there and tell you stories and give evidence on stuff that would blow your head clean through the roof. I'm not saying Nibiru isn't real or none of the stories are true because myself being diagnosed in 2006 with Schitzophreniform Psychosis and "suffering" from auditory and visual hallucinations I can honestly say that the majority of the worlds population are severely blinded by things going on right under there noses, I'd like to give you a hypothetical and have you ponder.....
I'll assume you know most of Nibiru legends eg.Niburons created human life as slaves from a genetically engineered cross bread, they hollowed out planets to use as space crafts for efficiency etc etc..... Lets say Nubiro is on the move towards planet earth..Why? Is it to take back the moon which apparently was one of there space craft? Do you think any Government or higher level of authority on this planet knows of the impending removal of the moon which is an integral part of sustaining our eco systems? Will these earth dwelling higher powers decide to start a conflict over the moon to try and ensure the survival of the inhabitants of this planet? Will we all be annihilated because of the decisions of a few people who claim to be speaking for everybody and everything on this planet over a moon? Now this is the real question, if any of this even starts to happen around the time it was predicted are you going to make sure you have your say to try and ensure that life continues to prosper on this planet or let "the man" start another war they know they'll never win?
Sorry It's soooo long.
PEACE, HEALTH, HAPPINESS, WEALTH and PROSPERITY
Source(s): Touchy subject to bring up : ) - Omma DeinonLv 51 decade ago
To prove just how insanely open-minded I am I decided to watch part of this video. Here is a running commentary of my thoughts as I go through it:
Remote viewing: No evidence to support this claim--anecdotal at best. Don't bring up the military experiments or business products or supposed experts because none of them provide evidence. An alternative explanation to these reports would be synesthesia, imagination, or lucid dreaming--or a host of other dissociative experiences--all of which are embodied (in the head) and do not lend any credibility to out of body experiences.
ET's (extra-terrestrials...): Based on the false presupposition of remote viewing...
Appeal to authority: The old man in this video is claiming a lot of things, such as his contact with the US government, etc. etc. All of this is based on his word, and not founded on any evidence. Even if he were in contact with the military or some other government operation that doesn't lend it any credibility without, you guessed it, evidence... Besides, there are as many crackpots in the government as there are outside it.
Wild conjectures: Lot's of what if's, or imagine that, etc. Not supported.
"I want to believe" syndrome: Like they used to say on the x-files, "I want to believe"--a desire for something to be true is just that, a desire, and a misguided one at that. The only way people could possibly buy into this stuff is if they have some need or personal investment in the possibility that any of it is true.
Charisma: The man may have what appears to be charisma, or integrity, or gentleness, whatever it might be. People then assume that because he's such a a nice human being then it must be true, his charisma makes what he says credible even in the face of having absolutely no facts to support him.
Disillusionment: At some point he begins speaking about how this "knowledge" became an addiction or an obsession and his paradigm crumbled. This could also describe someone who has lost their grasp on reality just as easily. I'm not saying he's necessarily lying or crazy, simply disillusioned and misguided.
Interlaced with kernel's of truth: Even crackpots can, from time to time, bleep out some truisms. The most effective forms of misinformation generally involve truths interlaced with some gross simplifications, embellishments, contradictions, and lies making it hard for some people to tell what is credible and what is merely the appearance of credibility.
Emotional appeals: Lots of appeals to sympathy and piety, as if by showing his humanity that makes what he says true. This is one other fallacy among many, and we're only 5 minutes into the video.
At this point the credibility meter is broken, and most people, if they haven't tuned out already, should know better and leave it at that. Seriously, do you take this as evidence? A bunch of stories and anecdotes? Please engage in critical thinking in the future, do not waste your mind on these things, it's not what you think it is.
Source(s): EDIT: You've been warned, you are now going down the same path as paranoid schizophrenics, pseudo-scientific ramblers, and conspiracy theorists. I feel sympathy more than anything for you, because it is clear you have a deep emotional and psychological investment in these ideas. You have insulated yourself from criticism and are thereby incapable of believing anything that doesn't fit your speculations and, I'm sorry if this is harsh but, delusional beliefs bordering on some form of psychosis. I say this not to dishearten you, but to motivate you to get you thinking straight. The sites you reference, the ideas you speak of, the evidence you take for granted, is well-known, and thoroughly discredited. It isn't simply discredited because of it's seeming absurdity, it is discredited because there is no evidence, and by evidence I mean scientific experiments, research data, or objective consistency or coherence. You seem to care about not being deceived, so you should raise your standard of what passes for evidence, anecdotes, stories, testimonies, and conspiracy websites is not evidence. I hope you're simply too young to know better, but take some advice, and don't block everything being said through your mental filters or prejudices or biases, look at it clearly, intelligently, rationally, and you will see as everyone else that these claims have no foothold on reality. I wish you the best. Take care. - How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
- John MLv 51 decade ago
You choose you learnings from you tube?!! lol Nibiru is crap. It has no basis in science at all. If you look back even older, all the theories were supposed to come true in 2003, with Nancy Leiber even giving a date that it would become visible to Earth...but hey guess what..it didnt, so they changed it! 2012 now! Its all crap, it wont happen. Even if it had been "hiding" behind the sun we have satelittes that can see it, it would have disturbed the orbits of other planets etc etc. Its all crap, forget it, and i'll see you on Dec 22 2012 to prove it.
EDIT- Ice melting? Its all natural and yes I dont believe in global warming either, but every planet, earth especially has a natural orbit that alters slightly over many many thousands of years - any basic understanding of Atronomy and sciences will tell you that - and as a result there is a natural cycle of ice ages. For example millions of years ago the UK had a tropical climate, hence the cliffs at Teignmouth are formed by a desert, and yet in a differemt period we have been covered in ice and in the grips of an ice age. And yet the ice melted, and the planet still survived. There is even a generally accepted theory that a large planet has once passed close to the earth, in its early history and the resulting collision created the moon. But the simple evidence is, that with millions of people of all walks, and faiths, and backgrounds, observing the skies, and having access to various methods of observation, no one has ever spotted anything that could in anyway be said to be the rouge planet that is happening to orbit breaking every law of physics. Only self appointed "experts" claim to know. The theory of the fact that it is in a very ellipitical orbit and approching from the far sun is crap, as we are constantly moving in orbit ourself, so would soon move round to see it approaching, but then they say "ah buts its always on the far side of the sun in its orbit"..so which is it? it a very ellipitical orbit with a period of millions of years..OR is it matching the earth and staying exactly opposite the sun in its orbit and therefore matching teh earths orbit? In which case many many satelittes and probes would have it in view. Well I respect your opinions, though i seriously do worry about deluded people, but I will continue to look forward to reading on here on Dec 22 2012 that "Nibiru is due to hit the earth in..2003, (no used that one) 2012 (bugger didnt come) so lets say, oh yeah 2016!! That should give another 4 years of selling books! lol
Source(s): Feet firmly on the ground - 1 decade ago
Oh well I got as far as Mount Ararat and what was supposed to be the Ark of Noah which has only turned out to be rock formation. So what ever the Nibiru speculation is then it is only that. A world of Seers and Madgi and the Star of Bethlehem which was the formation of 3 stars shinning once every 50,000 years or more.
- Century25Lv 61 decade ago
Astronomy is one of my hobbies. So, let me tell ya.. don't sweat it..!! There is plenty of pieces of 'debris' left over from the 'big-bang' - and way.. way out beyond Pluto's orbit are lots of junk.. rocks, ice etc.. and of course, some asteroids. They are so far away.. and small, that they are hard to detect. And.. there are thousands of amateur astronomers looking for anything 'new' - such as comets.. super nova.. etc.. etc.. and, there is nothing even close to being a 'planet' heading our way.
People have always.. through the years.. centuries.. had big imaginations. and this 'Nibiru' is another fantasy too.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Nature abhors a vacuum and in my opinion the absence of meaning is meaning in itself. More to the point: a neutral shade of gray takes on the complimentary color of it's closest and most prominent color association.
Source(s): the hole I dug - Anonymous1 decade ago
Its important to keep on learning and growing.....but I also believe that some lies are necessary for the wellbeing of humanity.....
A little bit of knowledge in the wrong hands can be a very dangerous thing......as we all know....
- Anonymous1 decade ago
We all live the lie of the dellusionment we call our lives.