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creationism or evolution. intelligent answers please?

Ok having been raised in the Roman Catholic faith I remember being told that evolution did not exist. However I denounced my Catholic upbringing a few years ago cause I didn't buy the bull crap that the Church tries to teach. With my first child about to be born, I can't in my mind even try to teach him that God made us in his image. Let me make myself clear, I am not saying that there isn't a God. I believe there probably is, what I am saying is that there is no way people can believe that creationism is how we all got here. First off, how does creationism explain the different races? If we were all in God's image we would all look the same. Why is there blacks and asians and whites? Hell why is there men and women? I honestly believe that most people use religion as a way to convince themselves that their life has a purpose, that we are all here for a reason. I firmly believe that each of us has no purpose. We simply just are. And if we do have a purpose it is just to reproduce. It does not bother me to think that my ancestors were at one time nothing more that single celled bacteria.Even at our simplest form we are just groups of cells. Basically I am looking for reasons why people seem to think that creationism is how we got here?

Update:

To the orthodox Christian guy. I got your ignorance hanging. People commit suicide all the time. It has nothing to do with God. If it did no one would do it cause apparently God said we can't. You need to wake up and live your life in the now, by todays rules for this cruel game we call life. Your blind following of a 2000 year old book is retarded. Jesus christ the people who wrote that thought the entire world was the middle east and northern africa. If someone wants to sit down and write a book about God using things we have today, I might listen. Until then, don't tell me I am the ignorant one when you sir are obviously the ignorant one. And yes I do own a bible, its actually leveling out this computer desk I am using. And I bought it at barnes and noble last week. Found it in the fiction section

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  • 1 decade ago
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    If we were all in God's image we would all look the same?

    (Genesis 1:27)"...And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them."

    God made man in his image, this doesn't mean we look like God because God's is a Spirit creature and we are Flesh creatures

    (John 4:24)"...God is a Spirit"

    What being made in God's image does mean is that we have the same qualities of God, meaning that if God can Love than so can humans, God hates badness the same why humans hate badness.

    Thus the reason why animals can't love and display other human qualities because they weren't made in the image of God, they also don't hate badness.

    ________Hell why is there men and women?________

    (Genesis 2:18)"...And Jehovah God went on to say: “It is not good for the man to continue by himself. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.”

    God saw that Adam was without a partner, unlike all the animals and decided to make a women for him as a complimant (also Genesis 1:27)

    (Genesis 2:22, 23)"...And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and to bring her to the man. Then the man said: “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man this one was taken.”

    ____How does creationism explain the different races?____

    As you know we all descend from Noah and his family, because Noah and his family were closer to perfection than us today when giving birth the offspring would come be a different race. (Also they had a longer life expectancy because they were closer to perfection living over 900 years - Genesis 9:29 )

    (Genesis 10:32) These were the families of the sons of Noah according to their family descents, by their nations, and from these the nations were spread about in the earth after the deluge.

    You can see that Noah sons were split according to their races or nations. They were all Noah's children but were different races.

    ________________________

    When i hear people say we got here by the Big Bang i think it's stupid.

    Think, What's the answer to 0+0 =?? It's 0 isn't it.

    Until someone works out how 0+0 = 1, I'll never believe the theory of the Big Bang, as nothing cannot create something.

    I hope my answer helps

    Source(s): I'm One of Jehovah's Witnesses
  • 1 decade ago

    On the one hand, we have people who have this book, which was written thousands of years ago by people with no concept of modern science, and who probably wouldn't have cared anyway. It is a book that underwent a lot of change and was created through a long historical process in which certain things ended up being accepted, and others rejected. The Bible did not appear out of the blues one day, with the booming voice of God saying: "This is It!" It has a long and complex history. Anyone who denies this needs to explain why Christians didn't take the Torah as is for the Old Testament. Even though the Torah itself was not put together until the early Middle Ages, since diaspora Jews did not have a universally accepted text either... I digress. Point is: Literalists are absolutely deluded anyway. They don't know the first thing about the story of their religion, let alone the history of the world.

    On the other hand, we have the whole scientific community, of which creationists are not a part, no matter what they claim. These people are under a stringent regime which demands certain qualifications from them in order to get accepted in their fields. Biologists have to understand a degree of mathematics, chemistry, physics, etc... that would make the average person vomit before they're event admitted to begin their advanced degrees. Then, they have to keep current and all the while, they face one of the most competitive systems out there. Science does not reject ideas because they don't like their directions. The fact is if someone had a theory that seriously challenged evolution, biology journals would be fighting each other to be the first to publish it. There is absolutely no grounds to the idea the university system is somehow in a huge conspiracy to protect the idea of evolution. Quite the contrary, unsustainable ideas don't survive long in that world.

    So there you go. Which of these groups do you trust more to bring you an objective, honest depiction of reality, to the best of our knowledge at the present time?

  • 1 decade ago

    OUR PURPOSE IS TO REPRODUCE?!

    That is really backwards, dark ages thinking and I as a woman do not appreciate anyone saying that the only reason women are here is to have children and repopulate the world!!!!

    We (humans) did not come from any other life form. We are NOT simple groupings of cells. Every species on this planet --- is, was, and always will be that particular species.

    I have never heard of a chimp giving birth to a human-like baby or a human giving birth to a chimp-like creature.

    AND that is preciously what would happen if CHIMPS and HUMANS ever mixed. DNA in an offspring comes from the FATHER AND the MOTHER!!!

    Study human physiology and anatomy, it shows that there is too much of a difference in chimps and humans for us to have EVER intermixed.

    There was once an attempt to put chimp organs in a human, the CHIMPS ORGANS were rejected because they AREN'T COMPATIBLE!!

    (If you found a Bible in the 'fiction' section it was only because someone put it there after deciding not to buy it. I have been to Barnes and Noble, they have an entire section for religious books)

    *forgot to mention that I view all thumbs-down as a positive testimony to the faith I have in Jesus Christ -- so I thank all in advance for each one.

  • Tad W
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Creationism requires a certain epistemology. Basically, creationists believe that the Bible (or the particular version they happen to use) in the inerrant, infallible and complete word of God. If this is true, then anything that contradicts holy writ is a deception. All of their "knowledge" is based on this postulate.

    You, obviously, have a different epistemology, and base your knowledge on something else. From your question, I would guess that you base what you know on what you can perceive with your senses. This would generally be called "realism," although it is an accepted assumption that what you perceive is "real." Others base their knowledge on other postulates. Descartes decided that his senses could be deceived, and then concluded that the only thing he could say with certainty was true was "cogito ergo sum" or "I think, therefore I am." What we perceive as reality could just as easily be a really advanced video game, and the purpose of our lives is to collect the right knowledge to win the game and get back to the real world.

    What we conceive of as "purpose" is built upon our epistemology, what we conclude is the basis of our knowlege; how we know what we know. This in turn determines our Oncological (what is real) beliefs, and also our Ethical beliefs (what is of value).

    I think the truly wise man will consider his existence from as many epistemologies as possible, for each informs us of different ways of being.

    EDIT: on the "in His image" question. In Gen 1:1, in the original Hebrew, the word translated to English as "God" is "Elohim." This word is a transgendered plural; literally translated, Gen 1:1 says, "In the beginning, gods and goddesses created the heavens and the Earth." We don't get to an anthropomorphic god until Gen 2. Perhaps we were created in their image?

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  • Mary
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    Evolution is a theory based in scientific fact. So YES, evolution should be taught in science classrooms throughout the U.S. On the other hand, Creationism (I.D.) is 100% fantasy with NO supporting *facts* (other than a 2000 year old story). I would not be opposed to it being taught in a *mythology* class with the rest of the world's creation myths, but I DO NOT think it should be taught in a science class.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Pope, Catholic Church, Church of England and mainstream churches all accept evolution and the big bang!!

    Lord Carey the former Archbishop of Canterbury put it rather well – “Creationism is the fruit of a fundamentalist approach to scripture, ignoring scholarship and critical learning, and confusing different understandings of truth”!!

    Nice that christians and atheists can agree and laugh together even if it is at the fundies expense!!

  • efqy
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    This is not really a response to the question "why people think creationism is how we got here", but more a response to the subject line.

    I highly recommend Jerry Coyne's "Why Evolution Is True" as clear and simple laying out of the evidence that living things evolve (change in proportions of alleles over time), and why natural selection (and a few additional ideas) is such a powerful explanation for it.

    We make our lives purposeful.

    Evolution makes countless predictions. Those predictions are confirmed over and over. Creationism makes no predictions.

    [If you take any antibiotics more recent than the first few developed, you believe in evolution... otherwise penecillin alone is just as effective as it originally was]

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I feel so sorry for your child in the ignorance that you show with arguments like different races, then using the popular atheistic argument that religion gives people purpose, yeah it does, no one is denying this, life with out God is a life without a reason, that is why you see so many suicides and violence these days.

    You believe we have no purpose and we just are, you accept evolution and reject Creationism because of your ignorance.

    Did you know there is no evidence to support any evolution except micro?

    There is no evidence whatsoever for macro, planetary, chemical, organic, and cosmic evolution. You simply have been tricked by Satan and it is clear to any reasonable Christian mind that you are a victim of his lies.

    P.S.

    The Vatican (Open Friendly Secret Society/Vatis - Serpent, Can- Divine) has been infiltrated by the P2 Masonic Lodge of Italy in the 1960's, and is one of the main players ushering the New World Order in.

    It would benefit you to watch a series on evolution that I made, maybe you'll wake up...and maybe I won't feel that bad for your child anymore.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T178S8jndrM&feature...

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    ok i will make it short.

    it is a fact that during evolution information cant be added. it can only be added in the process of cross breading. and even that is not for sure.

    and mutation is some thing totally different. it is done by disturbance is the cell when it is being formed as a new offspring.it dose not change the genetic code of life for that specimen.

    and usually mutation is not accepted thus dose not gets the chance of giving the mutated code of information to the next generation.

    and since the information cant be added so the species can only have the things in them added in any way possible s from crossbreeding and mutation which is most unlikely (mutation).

    and this thing has a big bearer of life coming to land from sea. it i much possible for life to go to sea than come from it. cuz land animals can spend some time in the water but water animals which have gills can spend time in land.

    lungs are a totally different code of information than gill and since information cant be added and we see animals in both land and water. this could only mean that evolution never happened. so many kinds of species we see are due to crossbreeding. but the kind of animal was created not evolved.

    and there are changes in color due to environment and most life forms have the information to get used to the environment.

    like Eskimos have more fat. Africans have less. our bodies gives it different parts diffrent affect due to environment it is not evolution. cuz if a African is born in Alaska and survives he also has more fat.

    this practice is also seen in some animals which change there skin of type of body structure according to weather of environment

    so dose it give you the answer cuz i had to use my brain for it which i usually dont.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I do not believe in Creation*ism*, because it takes the Bible *out* of context, & explains creation *un*realistically, as well as unscripturally.

    Take for example why a Creative Day is niether a 24 hr -nor- 1,000 yr* -nor- 10,000 yr day {which they claim) :

    "Does Science Contradict the Genesis Account?"

    - When Was “the Beginning”?

    - How Long Were the Creative Days?

    - Creations Appear Gradually - According to Their Kinds http://watchtower.org/e/200609a/article_01.htm

    * (". . . Let this one fact not be escaping your notice . . .

    that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years . . ." --2 Peter 3:8)

    "There are too many 'religious' people who become religious precisely to avoid having to think. They simply want to accept everything 'on faith,'" The dean of a theological seminary in the United States.

    "The implication is that most people who profess religious faith give little thought to why they believe what they do or to whether there is a reasonable basis for their faith. . ."

    But that is *blind faith*, and not according to Scriptural advice, which ecourages us to, "[examine] the Scriptures daily as to whether [teachings are] so." Acts 17:10,11

    "Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but

    *test* the inspired expressions *to see whether they originate with God*, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world." --1 John 4:1-21

    *True faith* "is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld." --Hebrews 11:1

    "Make Sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine." --1 Th 5:21

    Even though the majority don't follow tion, there is a group that does.

    This is their main Bible study aid, if you'd care to take a look:

    "What Does the Bible *Really* Teach?"

    http://watchtower.org/e/bh/article_00.htm

    The races are a breeze to explain . . .

    Take breeds of dogs, for example:

    After just a few generations of captive inbreeding, wild foxes began looking quite different. Their coats changed colors, some getting large splotches of white or color, where there were none before.

    Studies were done on the origins of modern dogs world wide, & using mitochondrial DNA, which is inherited directly from the mother, they narrowed it down to 3 female Wolves, probably in East Asia. These are found to be the ancestors of 95% of the modern dogs.

    ("Origin of dogs traced", Science/Nature)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2498669....

    Similar studies have been done with human DNA, & they found that we all stem from *one* set of parents---which was no problem beasue of the vast diversity created in their gene pool. It was when the human family separated & families went their separate ways, that generations of inbreeding of *all* those families occurred---with similar results.

    Another study was done using DNA that showed that

    we are genetically similar to more people in *multiple races*,

    than to those who are in our 'own' race.

    "Unraveling the Mystery of Your Genes":

    - Genes, DNA, and You

    - Peering Into the Microscope

    - What Is Behind the Mystery of Life?

    - How DNA Replicates

    - How Proteins Are Made

    http://watchtower.org/e/19990908a/article_01.htm

    You state:

    "If someone wants to sit down and write a book about God using things we have today, I might listen."

    I hereby seriously challenge you to read the book:

    "Is there a Creator Who Cares About You?"

    http://watchtower.org/e/publications/index.htm

    (*Lots* of Current Scientific Knowledge in this publication.)

    Online, you might also want to look into:

    "Can Science Help You to Find God?" :

    - Is It Unscientific to Believe in God?

    - Why Some Scientists Believe in God

    - Quotes from several Scientists

    http://watchtower.org/e/20040622/article_01.htm

    (3 of 4 in a series of articles)

    "Is There a Creator?" :

    - Whom Should You Believe?

    - *Are Jehovah's Witnesses Creationists?*

    - What Does Nature Teach?

    - Did God Use Evolution to Create Life?

    http://watchtower.org/e/200609/article_01.htm

    I find that the purpose for human life that is taught in Scripture, actuaally harmonizes beautifully with the basic desires common to us all:

    "God’s Purpose for the Earth [& Mankind]"

    http://watchtower.org/e/20060515/article_02.htm

    "Good Surrounded by Evil

    - How Good Will Conquer Evil"

    http://watchtower.org/e/20060101/article_01.htm

    "THE EARTH—Just Right for Us!" :

    - Enjoy Our Beautiful Earth

    - Our Unique Solar System---How It Got Here

    - An Everlasting Gift From the Creator

    http://watchtower.org/e/20070215/article_01.htm

    Thank you for considering!

    .

    Source(s): Compare the wording in different Bibles online: http://unbound.biola.edu/ {compare up to 4 Bibles, side by side; http://watchtower.org/bible/index.htm {read verses in context.
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