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"What are the odds . . .?"?

You hear people make the claim, quite often, that the Bible or some other religious holy text is more than likely true - because people wouldn't take the time to propagate such a lie. "Who would die for a lie?" they say (Strobel?). Who would worship a man that REALLY didn't do anything special? Why would people go through all the trouble of making up these stories? etc.

But isn't that EXACTLY what all religious people believe of every other religion?

Sure, no one would take the time to make up stories about Jesus, or to spread his message and worship him if he hadn't really done all those things in the Bible . . . . but people will do it of Muhammad, or Buddha, Krishna, Mithras, Greek oracles, pharaohs, etc etc etc etc. People die for Allah all the time, does this put Islam nearer to the position of "truth?" Of course not.

There are countless Gods and Goddesses, as there are many many religions.

The religious believe EVERY other religion, and every other God and Goddess created in history is simply man-made. Stories. Lies. Yet, their religion is the sole exception. It is incredibly unreasonable.

As Christopher Hitchens said (in a debate I believe with his brother): "What are the odds that God created man, when stacked against the odds that man created God?"

The religious MUST admit that man has created thousands and thousands of Gods, written loads and loads of false doctrine and creeds . . . they have to. Obviously.

Yet, it's somehow unreasonable for others to think the same is true of their religion?

No people would possibly go through the trouble of making up the Bible. But people will go through the trouble of making up the Qu'ran, the Book of Mormon, the Necronomicon, the Enuma Elish, the Vedas, the Bhagavad Gita . . . etc.

It's just . . . dumb.

Update:

Yes, I'm no troll. And it was more of a statement than it was a question . . . but I don't think I'm the only one guilty of ever doing that on here. ;)

The "what are the odds" question is quite clear, though. And that was the main point I was trying to make.

As to trying to convince people, I realize it is probably futile. I get that childhood indoctrination is hard to overcome. Especially in a society like America or Islamic theocracies where one religion has all the persuasion and benefits.

But I can't help but try. :P

Update 2:

*sigh* So few replies.

I will arrogantly count that as a successful stumping of the religious! ;)

Or not.

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  • Mike S
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    Not much of a question, but i absolutely agree!!

    Look, if you're out to convince people, dont try, like you and me, religious people are set in their own ways and it most likely wont be changed because there is always an answer. It stands that we will never ever EVER find out what is true.

    Evidently, it's certain that most religions are man made, but who knows? one COULD be right? You have a very good point and i often think about it too. Good on you for raising it -- but when you're brought up from young believing something is real and then presented a huge amount of "evidence" supporting it, then you're not going to change your view because you have got alot of people out there supporting you.

    In the end, if a certain belief makes so many people happy, then who's to say it's wrong?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Excellent post!

    And if you're a troll, I give you 10/10 because I really can't tell if you are lampooning the bible or not.

    Intended or not, it is a GREAT lampoon!

  • Moops
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    People die for lies all the time. How many people died in Iraq for a lie?

  • 1 decade ago

    There is a question in here somewhere....you just aren't sure what you want to ask.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Yeah, I agree.

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