Cliffhanging problem.?

So my "friend" is too weak to pull themselves up and help themselves? If they're that weak (or injured), they'll let go on their own, or if they're that "heavy" my fingers will not be able to hold us both or arm will rip from my body.

Legally, if our arms sweat, and they will under this kind of stress, and they lose their grip, I am not liable.

Yes, I'm "allowed" to let go, my values would permit it, yours may not.

Again, I wouldn't have to shake him off, sweat, remember. But, self-preservation usually overrides any morals you were taught.

It's not a good analogy to me. A fetus is technically a parasite, and a friend is someone (i.e., someone that has a certificate of birth) that you know. But abortion is not my issue, being a male; it would be if I was capable of giving birth. In that case, it's my body, my life, my choice and my business, and no one has the right to tell me what to do with it

You can make any analogy you want to create work for you, but an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange.

If this is a "legal" question rather than a moral question, it belongs on the Politics & Government > Law & Ethics board.

I hope you didn't give away your main point too easily.

You have the legal right to let go, since he/she is endangering your life, or causing you pain. Also, he the one responsible for the accident.

No it is not murder.

It depends how strong you are, or how much it hurts.

This is not a "good" analogy because:

1. The fetus is not a fully formed human.

2. The fetus is not a friend.

3. The fetus doesn't have the rights of a fully formed human

4. The woman is the responsible party in the case of abortion as opposed to the faller in your story.

5. There may be some analogy in that though abortion is a fundamental right under the constitution, it is also under strict scrutiny. I don't see how your "suffering saviour" could be considered as legally "under scrutiny" in U.S. courts of today.

It is clever to say that both are "alive" at the some point before the one is not saved, and the second is aborted, but that's the extent of the analogy for me.

legally you should be allowed to let go and try to save your self.... that's personal freedom... legally he is allowed to cling to you... same freedom. You are not allowed to shake him off, that's intent to dislodge him not save yourself.

terrible analogy for abortion, the number and types of cases where the mothers life is at risk are damn few and far between... most abortions are considered and done out of convenience... like if you are your buddy are walking along a cliff and you discover you have a blister on your heel... do you pop it or let it grow until it is a large problem

Its a good analogy for an exercise in futility.

Anyway some people deem abortion to be at least undesireable if not outright Murder.

And its not going away ; anology or no anology.

Stupid question, any true friend would thow their friend to the top of saftey before themselves.