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Is the University of Texas "in on" the alleged CRU global warming "conspiracy"?
Did they fudge data showing accelerating Antarctic ice loss, using a satellite specifically designed to measure it? If so, did they take their fake data out of the air?
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/a...
Is their published raw data (http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/asdp.html) the stuff that's fudged? Or is it the final data products (http://www.csr.utexas.edu/grace/science_links.html...
Are the Germans in on it too, since the incoming raw satellite data comes into their mission control in Neustrelitz? And how can the Germans manufacture fake raw data in the 24 hours between reception and publication on their servers?
14 Answers
- antarcticiceLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
Your first three answers show the level of denier logic, evidence for them, has now become alleged stolen emails that magically show it's all fake origin unknown, authenticity unknown.
To be honest that sort of stuff is pathetic, it shows a complete lack of understanding of the depth of research that is going on around the world, certainly not just the U.S. or the U.K.
- Noah TallLv 41 decade ago
I don't know, are they? Your data is missing (not found).
Well first off the publication is in Nature, which has a history of poor reviewing their articles and does not enforce any sort of data archiving. You reference an article on sea ice loss, which is not a good indicator of temperature, sorry. Wind and wave action ire the primary cause of loss of sea ice. The abstract has no useful information, except that their observations show a loss beginning in 2006, odd there was a spike in the ACE in 2005, wonder if they are connected?
GRACE would not be an ideal instrument to measure sea ice. While the density of ice and water are different, the displaced mass is the same, having a net gravimetric effect of zero. I would see the method as problematic at best. It is however a good means to measure ice on land.
Please don't try to restore the reputation of Scientific activists by comparing them to others that may still be trying to do good science. It will further erode the already suffering confidence the public has with them.
- Dana1981Lv 71 decade ago
Well as you know, the alleged "CRU global warming conspiracy" is all a bunch of baloney. But no, the satellite measurements of Arctic sea ice decline done by the U of Texas have nothing to do with the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit.
The problem for deniers is that while conspiracy theories are all well and good and fun, they don't have any impact on the global climate. Arctic ice will continue to melt, air and ocean temperatures will continue to rise, and the effects of climate change will become ever more clear. In a week or so we won't be hearing about these so-called conspiracy emails very often anymore.
- MoeLv 61 decade ago
Your logic is undeniable, this attempt to discredit the science is just another diversion tactic.
I'm sure they only did it to make their own data match up with everyone else can you blame them really look at what happens to those that submit information that might be contrary to AGW theory. They were only joking when they discussed discrediting other scientist for contrary views.
Good point, they couldn't possibly have done anything wrong based on the evidence you've presented here. You must write columns professionally. I'd like to know where I can find more of your brilliant writings.
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- 1 decade ago
Well as you know, the e-mails proving "CRU global warming conspiracy" are very incriminating. But no, the satellite measurements of alleged arctic sea ice decline done by the U of Texas have nothing to do with the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit, they have their own funding to worry about so that manipulation is separate.
The problem for alarmists is that while AGW theories are all well and good and fun, they don't have any impact on the global climate. Arctic ice will continue to expand, air and ocean temperatures will continue to fall, and natural climate change will continue as it has for millions of years. In a week or so we won't be hearing about these emails very often anymore, it should be swept under the rug and covered up.
- Weise EnteLv 71 decade ago
If you listen to the deniers, yes, yes they are all in on it.
The entire scientific community is part of the vast evil conspiracy to do something...possible for profit or to create a world government. The exact motive changes occasionally.
And those few slightly questionable when out of context emails are clearly proof of this grand conspiracy.
- seacap2000Lv 41 decade ago
Get over this "conspiracy" thing! Geez, you'd think everyone in the world is conspiring one way or another to get their way. Use the term, "exchange of ideas and information". Many people have different ideas about what's going on. It's not a conspiracy.
- Didier DrogbaLv 61 decade ago
So your question is "just because some of it has proven to be a lie, why can't we just go with the rest of it?"
Why?
Because there's no credibility. Believing the AGW proponents now is like believing the Nixon White House after Watergate.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
This is baloney. Our faith is in tact. AGW is still real.
- 1 decade ago
Nothing to see here, folks:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/climategate-the-final-...
Move along. There is no problem. AGW is still real, despite the massive evidence that it's a conspiracy and a fraud. Doomsday is still imminent. The sky is still falling. We'd better shut down the economy right now, or else the oceans will boil away very soon. We realize that may not seem to be the case, but trust us, it is. C'mon, it's not like we've ever lied to you in the past!