(Pagans & Christians) Similarities between Jesus Christ and the Greek Dionysus?

Dionysus was the god of wine - Jesus drank wine

Dionysus turned water into wine - Ditto Jesus

Dionysus was virgin-born (kinda) his Mom Semele was impregnated by Zeus, disguised as a lightening bolt - Jesus was virgin-born

In the ancient play, The Bacchae, by Euripides, Dionysus has long hair and a beard - Voila! In many many paintings of Jesus, he is portrayed as having a beard and long hair.

How're we going to have an "educated debate" when Spell Checker prompts me to change Bacchae to backache?

I must have spent 200 hours researching similarities between older religions and Christianity, and found a lot of unproven assertions, but NEVER an original document. By original document I mean the mahabarata, original greek mythology, original babylonian documents, etc.

Although, the epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon has the story of noah, the mahabarata has the story of a true virgin birth, zoroastrianism has the concept of Heaven and hell--That's all I ever found for real. Other than that, they were both God-men is the only similarity that I know of.

The first site I list says they are similar, but cites as a source a modern book, which I admittedly never bothered to look at. I want to see original documentation. This is the first of my sources. The second of my sources is the best free original documentation of this nature on the internet.

I also asked a question here on r&s if there were any original documents proving any similarities at all between Jesus and anyone. I didn't get any, I did get an answer that says such claims fall apart when you study them in a scholarly fashion, and this seems to be the case.

I am not aware of any similarities between the two. I have heard, however, of some claiming that Dionysus had a virgin birth (like that of Jesus), but if you look at the mythology that isn't true.

"1. Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25th and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger.

Actually, his birth was always celebrated on January 6th. Also, his mother, Semele, was impregnanted sexually by Zeus. He was never referred to as the "Holy Child" or placed in a manger in any version of the story.

2. His birth was announced with a heavenly display and celestial music.

I can find no reference to either, and there is no "celestial music" in the Jesus story.

3. He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles.

This is true. However, this phrase loses any similarities with Jesus when we deal with the specifics of what Dionysus did. Jesus traveled in a limited area, while Dionysus supposedly traveled to most of the known world (including Greece, Persia and Arabia). Jesus' miracles were healings and such - all positive miracles. Dionysus' miracles were judgments against those who defied him" (The above answer was quoted from http://kingdavid8.com/Copycat/JesusDionysus.html. Please go there for additional details).

Who is Dionysus? It's my first time to hear his name and why are you asking his similarities with Jesus? Jesus is the Son of God who knew no sin but died for our sins, including your sins. Through Him every thing was being made. He healed the sicks, resurrected the dead, etc. How about this Dionysus?

I will not tell you to accept Jesus as your personal Savior because I believe you are intelligent enough to understand why you are here on this earth which is part of God's creation through Jesus, His Son.

If you are grateful toward your parents who nurtured you from childhood and stayed in their house. Much more you shall be grateful to Jesus Christ, the Son of God, because He is part of the creation of the whole milky ways, galaxies, stars including the planet earth where the human beings inhabit including yourself.

Do you think the infrastructures, high-ways, low-ways, cars, ships planes, buildings, your parents house or yours and many others will come into existence without the manufacturers, designers, planners, builders, etc? So are the milky ways and galaxies, etc. which were designed and created intelligently to avoid collision with each other. Think about it my friend!

The difference between the two is that Dionysus did not actually exist, but honest historians will admit that Jesus actually lived! The question is not whether Jesus was real (which Dionysus was clearly NOT), but whether he was who he claimed to be.

Here are a few things that he said about himself:

Jesus said that you can ONLY know God, through Him, Jesus Christ.

He said that “all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.”

When he prayed, he asked God to give him back the glory that he had before the world ever existed.

He said “I am the door to Life. If anybody tries to enter by any other means, he will be treated as a thief and a robber, and be sent to a place of outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth!”

Jesus said that He did ONLY what He saw His Father in heaven do. (No man has seen God at any time, yet Jesus SEES God and copies His behaviors, so Jesus must be something MORE than a mere man, since no MAN has seen God.) He KNEW God. He even said that He came from the very HEART of God, so He could say objectively, "When you've seen ME, you've seen the Father."

Furthermore, Jesus said "I am Truth." Was Jesus telling the truth when He said that? Or was He a liar?

Jesus also said "I am Life", and again, "I am the bread of Life that has come down from My Father in heaven to give Life.", and again, "I am the water of life. Whoever is thirsty, come to me, and out of his inner-most being shall flow rivers of living waters", and finally, "I am the Resurrection and the Life. If any man believe in me, though he may die, yet shall he live again."

He said, "You already believe in God, now believe also in me."

He said "There is none good but God", then he told somebody else "I am good (or I am the good shepherd)" - not "A good shepherd", but "THE good shepherd". King David said in Psalms 100, The LORD is my shepherd. If the LORD is the shepherd, and Jesus said he, himself, is the shepherd, then Jesus is claiming to be the LORD!

In his famous book Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis makes this statement, "A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic - on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg - or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us."

40 different authors of 66 Biblical books all written within a 1600 yr timeframe, all coordinating the same info. Witnesses that saw Christ. Prophecy that has come true only from the Bible, not the Quran or other religions. The communists are trying real hard to rid religion, you can let them or you can research on your own. NBC/History channel is run by communists. So is the educational system. You will have at least a dozen Marxists teach you before you graduate. The textbooks you read are all lobbied by communist groups. Check it out yourself.

according to H Wayne House the Dionysus cult practiced baptism, dedication, and sacramental meals. also the Dionysus cult practiced glossolalia which is speaking in tongues. which is actually jiberish and not a real language.

There are no similarities between Jesus and Dionysus. To say so is the "BS" of which you speak.

There are no original source materials which show any connection or similarities between Dionysus and Jesus.

There are false claims floating about regarding alleged similarities between Jesus and other deities, but under scrutiny ALL those claims fall apart. But not one person has been able to produce an original source which pre-existed Christianity and proves a link between another deity and Jesus.

Try it yourself -- challenge your answerers who say there are similarities to cite their original sources.

Mostly you'll get "Zeitgeist." The problem with Zeitgeist is that it is based mostly upon sources which themselves do not cite original source documentation.

But the flaw in your premise is that "similarities" imply "copying," anyway.

__________

Psalm 68: Except for the glaring fact that "Jesus" was not the original name of Jesus -- it was "Yeshua." But your premise also requires a huge leap of inference, and that means it is a logical fallacy. Fail.

___________

Renata: Lots of people drink wine. Does that mean they are imitating or a copy of Dionysus? I didn't think so.

__________

Layman Lee: Does the author cite original source material to prove his claims, or are they just his opinion?

La ilaha illallah Muhammadur Rasool Allah!!!!

I CHOP OFF HEADS!!!!