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Any old school jet guys out there? B-58 Hustler test flight wreck.?
My dad worked at G.E. for a long time as an engine designer. I remember Chuck Yeager, among others, having dinner at our house when I was 6 (1976 - nice photo of me on his lap in the living room). Dad told me a story about a B-58 Hustler during the initial testing of "fly by wire"controls. As they transitioned over to it in flight the aircraft started to pitch and yaw uncontrollably, shaking all 4 of the engines loose. The plane went down in a flat spin over the Nevada desert. Does anyone know the name of the test pilot? Or have any idea's on how to go about finding it out. All I get from G.E. is no answer at all from my several queries on the subject. None of my Dad's friends know either. I would like to know for my own personal reasons, this man was very nice to me (just a dumb kid) on the occasions that he had come over to our house. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
If it was during flight test, NASA's Dryden center at Edwards may have information..
- jimLv 71 decade ago
It was a test bed. Yes production B58s didn't have FBW-but that's not what he's talking about here. FBW technology was conceived in the late 1960's so a B58 kind of makes sense-though it's notorious habit of departed controlled flight when it lost an engine makes one wonder why that aircraft.
Check the NTSB and FAA archives-it wasn't a military test flight so they should have data on it.
Source(s): Retired F4 WSO. - BaronVonPartyLv 51 decade ago
The B58 wasn't fly by wire.
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*********To next answer, the B58 was complex enough as it is. I have studied them pretty well (don't know everything though!) but have never ever heard of the Hustler being converted to FBW. The early AF experiments on FBW were done with a B47, which did not crash, it's in the AF Museum at Wright-Patt.***********
Source(s): There are two separate and independent hydraulic systems, the utility and the primary, each having two engine-driven pumps maintaining a pressure of 3000 p.s.i. Both systems share in the operation of the flight controls, the elevons and rudders; should one fail the other system assumes the full load; should both hydraulic systems fail, the pilot has no means of controlling the aircraft and the crew must eject. The hydraulic systems also operate the landing gear, nose wheel steering, wheel brakes, tail turret, aileron, elevator and rudder damper servos. A pneumatic system is provided for emergency extension of the landing gear and for emergency braking. http://www.vectorsite.net/avb58.html - How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
- lakishaLv 45 years ago
I've been browsing the web more than two hours today seeking the answer to the same question, but I haven't found a more interesting discussion like this. It is pretty worth enough for me.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
well 22.4% percent of all b-58s built were lost to accidents so he's not alone
- eferrell01Lv 71 decade ago
Here is a list of B58 crashes and the crew:
55-669
10-27-59 7 miles W of Hattiesburg, MS; accident cause was loss of control during normal flight; Convair pilot was Everett L. Wheeler (survived); Convair flight engineer Michael F. Keller (survived); Convair flight engineer Harry N. Blosser (fatal).
55-664
11-7-59 25 miles SE of Lawton, OK; accident cause not established; test flight simulating outboard engine failure at Mach 2; Convair pilot Raymond Fitzgerald (fatal); Convair flight engineer Donald A. Siedhof (fatal); no 3rd crew member.
55-667
6-4-60 26 miles SE Lubbock, TX; accident cause was loss of control and aircraft bailout during supersonic flight; Convair pilot Jack L. Baldridge (fatal); Convair flight engineer Hugh D. Coleman (fatal); Convair flight engineer Charles T. Jones (fatal).
58-1008 15 YB/RB-58A n/a
Accepted and delivered to the 6592nd TS for pod and suitability testing during 10/58; destroyed 12/16/58 -- (this was apparently the first B-58 accident) 38 n. miles NNE of Canon AFB, NM; accident cause was loss of control during normal flight when auto trim and ratio changer were rendered inoperative due to an electrical system failure; Air Force pilot Maj. Richard Smith (fatal); AF Nav/bombardier Lt. Col. George Gradel (survived); AF DSO Capt. Daniel Holland (survived).
58-1012
5-14-59 at Carswell AFB, Convair facility; accident cause was fuel leak and accidental ignition. Two Convair ground support people were killed.
58-1016 23 YB/RB-58A n/a
Eventually modernized/upgraded to operational aircraft for SAC; assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed on 5/20/65 -- near Little Rock AFB, AR; cause was a hard landing; AF pilot Capt. Ralph Semann (survived); AF Nav/bombardier Capt. Steve Kichler, Jr. (fatal); AF DSO 1st Lt. Ronald Smetek (survived).
58-1017 24 YB/RB-58A n/a
Assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed on 9/16/59 -- at Carswell AFB, TX; cause was tire failure during takeoff roll and aborted takeoff; AF pilot Maj. Kenneth Lewis (survived); AF Nav/bombardier Maj. Willis Edgecomb (fatal); AF DSO Capt. Lee Barnett (fatal).
58-1020 27 YB/RB-58A n/a
Eventually modernized/upgraded to operational aircraft for SAC; assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed 12/27/61 -- 4.3 n. miles NE of Camp Cole, MO.; cause of accident was engine flameout due to ruptured fuel manifold during normal flight; AF pilot Capt. Clarence Montgomery (survived); AF Nav/bombardier Capt. Louis Hughes (survived); AF DSO was Capt. John Roddy (survived).
58-1023
4-22-60 29 58-mile NW Ogden, UT; accident cause was loss of flight control during normal flight due to mach/airspeed data system failure; Convair pilot Ray E. Tenhoff (fatal); Convair test engineer Walter Simon (fatal); Convair test engineer Kenneth G. Timpson (survived).
59-2437
7-16-68 Little Rock AFB, AR; accident cause was right hand main landing gear damage on takeoff with gear collapse on landing; AF Pilot Maj George R. Tate (survived); AF Nav/bombardier Capt Ray G. Walters (survived); AF DSO Capt Francis Mosson (survived).
59-2443 46 B-58A Bye Bye Birdie
Assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed 6/15/65 -- at Le Bourget Airport, Paris, France; accident cause was undershooting during final approach to runway; AF pilot Lt. Col. Charles Tubbs (fatal), AF Nav/Bombardier Maj. Harold Covington (survived), AF DSO Maj. Vincent Karaba (survived).
59-2447 50 B-58A Rapid Rabbit
Assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed 2/15/62 -- 38 miles E. of Lawton OK.; accident cause was loss of aircraft control due to Mach and airspeed system malfunction during normal flight; AF pilot Maj. John Irving (survived); AF Nav/Bombardier Capt. John Fuller (survived); AF DSO Capt. Donald Avallon (survived). [SR-71 aficionados will recall that one of the Blackbirds was also nicknamed Rapid Rabbit and sported a 'bunny head' on the tail.]
59-2451 54 B-58A The Firefly
Used on 5/10/61 to set the world speed records over a 669.438 mile closed course (average speed 1,302.048 mph); on 5/26/61 set New York to Paris speed record of 3 hours 19 minutes 51 seconds at an average speed of 1,089.36 mph; crew awarded the Mackay Trophy on 5/13/62; destroyed 6/3/61 -- 5 nautical miles ENE of Le Bourget Airport, Paris, France; accident cause was attempted low-altitude aerobatic flight; AF pilot Maj. Elmer Murphy (fatal), AF Nav/Bombardier Maj. Eugene Moses (fatal), AF DSO 1st Lt. David Dickerson (fatal).
59-2454
2-23-67 Little Rock AFB, AR; accident cause was structural failure during taxi; AF pilot Lt Col Bruce A Ellis (survived); AF Nav/Bombardier Captain Robert A. Hendrickson (survived); AF DSO Capt Arlan W. Rohl (survived). Note: this aircraft was repaired and returned to service.
59-2459 62 B-58A n/a
Assigned to 43rd BW; destroyed 3/5/62 -- at Carswell AFB, TX; accident cause was mechanical failure of the flight control system; AF pilot Capt. Robert Harter (fatal), AF Nav/Bombardier Capt. Jack Jones (fatal), AF DSO 1st Lt. James McKenzie (fatal).
59-2462 65 B-58A n/a
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Source(s): Google B58 flight test crash, found under heading: RTF] B-58 Accident List - Technical support