If global warming is all a hoax, who isn’t involved in the conspiracy.?

Global warming isn't a hoax, its scientifically proven. We are not talking about religion here, where we argue about something we can't see. You can literally see the effects of global warming.

The reason people like to say its a conspiracy because we have grown accustomed to convenience of our oil-driven lifestyles. Where we don't need to go outside to cut wood to keep warm in the winter, instead pipes carry natural gas to keep our homes warm. And we don't need to go out and hunt, we just get into our SUVs, drive the supermarket and pick up our food already killed, plucked, and packaged.

USA, Canada, most of Europe and even Asia have built their cities, their economy, their food industry and everything else based on oil, what are they suppose to do? Just stop using it?

Imagine if you could go back in time to tell Rome that they were over-expanding and their empire would fall from instability, I bet the Romans would laugh at you. Same thing is happening know, tell people that our economy and our new oil-driven empire will fall soon, they will just carry on with their lives and ignore you.

As humans, we are plagued with inaction until something pushes us.

My first point would be 'which conspiracy' there are now so many and deniers seem to add new ones almost on a weekly basis. The position of science is 'by and large' to ignore the rants of the denier movement, over time they will implode under the weight of their own conflicting nonsense.

"And with so many millions of people in on the act, how come none of them have broken ranks and gone public?"

That's a bit like asking where are even 10% of the 30,000 scientists from the OISM petition, who are all strongly against AGW but have not shown up at any scientific meeting in the last several years. where are even 1% that would be 300 scientists, a protest at the annual AGU of 3 or 4 hundred scientists would make people think, make the media take notice.

Deniers have tried to explain this by saying "oh they don't want their careers ruined" by the nasty AGW's who get people fired" but hang on, these people 'supposedly' have already put their names on a petition.

30,000 scientists protesting at an AGU meeting would prove beyond doubt the petition is not fake, but this has not happened (and will never happen) because the petition is fake and I think even many deniers are starting to realise it is.

Even if I didn't work in a scientific group and had no knowledge of science I would still find it hard to believe the groups you name who's aims are mostly for the good of us all (NASA, NOAA, EPA) and especially (Oxfam, Red Cross and WHO) are part of such a silly pointless conspiracy, especially given the source of the theories, coming from political agenda sites like Heartland or Cato or any of the others who's only roll seems to be advertising front men for industry and right wing politics.

You missed my favorite: insurance companies, among the earliest of corporate AGW alarmists. If it is a hoax, then any insurance company that markets heavily to the to-be-most-effected areas will make a bundle, but somehow they're all in on it completely against the interests of their shareholders?

Nice question, though it will no doubt fall on deaf ears as usual. That's the problem with conspiracy theorists, the more implausible the better it is! I question the whole "exaggeration" argument when all the predictions by the IPCC have been shown to be UNDERestimates of what has actually happened! How is that an exaggeration?

@ the dead,

So by your logic, Dana not being a climate scientist means his (and your) opinion is invalid yes? Therefore, the only valid opinions are from climate scientists yes? And over 98% of them accept the evidence for AGW yes? So surely you must accept AGW?? If not, then who's opinions are valid exactly??

Oh don't forget the publishers of the scientific journals; they near the top of leadership. Over the past 30 years they have limited the pre-publication peer review to just the 20,000 other researchers who are in the secret conspiracy.

And Royal Shell has long been part of the conspiracy, and the Muir committee now shows that Exxon has quietly enlisted.

And the Inuit villagers, making up stories about their permafrost melting. They say whatever they are told by their handlers and Univerisity of Colorado, Boulder. It is all very will coordinated.

Given that the Hearland Institute is so much more knowlegable, it is difficult to understand why they have been so unable to break this worldwide conspiracy that is managed by the weak-minded Club of Rome and Maurice Strong.

it is not, if you are old enough, you can see with your own eyes how the planet is acting strange, plus is just absurd to pretend the human race can just destroy nature and do it forever, earth is going to strike back.

I've never understood that argument. It's not like scientists are known for being a bunch of sheep that will follow the current trend. The whole government argument seems silly, too, since during the Bush Administration the government would rather have had people like James Hansen just shut up about global warming. I think there is a large number of people that do not trust the government and do not understand science, so if they accept that AGW is a hoax perpetrated as part of a vast conspiracy it naturally falls into their mindset.

>>>So I was wondering, is there anyone that’s NOT involved in the conspiracy?

Well, you have the deniers and legitimate skeptics for one (two?). You also have the more organized ones who are part of, say, the Heartland Institute. You also then have big oil companies like Exxon, who constantly fund climate skepticism (and lie about it - that's irrelevant to the question though). Then of course there are the bloggers - gotta love them.

Oh, and who could forget people like Beck and Limbaugh?!? Dear God, I'm smacking myself right now for not including them sooner.

>>>And with so many millions of people in on the act, how come none of them have broken ranks and gone public?

Damn, stumped me. Someone could gain millions, no, BILLIONS of dollars by going public and showing that every single government and scientific organization and specialized agency and virtually every university and climatologist are all a part of one big "Punked" scheme.

I wonder why nobody has come forward to present the evidence that there's a conspiracy?

Horror upon horror!

I used to be able to rely on The (London) Times not to be part of it, but since (as you, Trevor, warned us) they reported this story and appointed an environment editor, I've lost faith in them too:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=An...

That leaves Sarah Palin, John McCain (revised version), Cuccinelli, Rush, Glen, some of the people bravely defending the Truth on here, and Ann Coulter, as the only people I can trust! Everyone else is part of the plot!

Lyndon LaRouche is the only one not zapped with Al Gore's magic ray-gun.

The Kenya Secret Service had to kill Stephen Schneider because he was about to spill the beans.