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how come some Americans are so anti the idea of free universal health care?
when they all get free schooling (I think they do anyway!!)
What's the difference? Surely both healthcare and education are fundamental services that should be freely available to all, regardless of their income and wealth? (by all means then pay extra to get private medicine if you like, in the same way that some people pay extra to get private education in the UK) - but at least you're all covered for the vital basics.
I wish people would read the question properly - stop quibbling about the word "free", please.
The point is the comparison is between basic elementary/primary education available to everyone - let's say "without any further charge over and above the tax already paid", since you dislike the word "free" - and basic healthcare available on the same basis. You get your schooling paid for out of your taxes so why is the concept of getting healthcare on the same basis so controversial?
PS I'm in the UK and much as we might grumble about waiting lists etc, NO-ONE here would want to see the end of the National Health Service.
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
They don't get FREE schooling, they pay for it with taxes. They won't get free health care either, they'll pay for it through taxes. It isn't free if you are paying for it. It's all just a shell game, where you will pay for it one way or another. The people that are beneficial to society pay taxes, and some of those that are a drain do not. Those that are a drain already have medicaid, which is free to them. I'm not saying they are all bad people, some try really hard and can't make it but there is already health care out there for them. But, if you think that "free" health care to all will mean we all have great health care...prepare yourself to be disappointed, in fact it will probably be worse than what we have now. Someone will pay for it...it won't be the rich and it won't be the poor...it will be the hard working middle class which is a dying class in the U.S. already. At this rate all we'll have is poor and the rich.
ECON 101 "There is no such thing as a free lunch."
- 1 decade ago
Many reasons for this. In one sentence the US is a far more capitalist country than the UK or most other countries in Europe. People are a lot more afraid of anything resembling communism as the US was involved in the Cold War with the Soviet Union so Americans grew up with many years of anti communism propaganda. Though Americans have public schools their standard are usually very poor and most families who can afford it send their children to private schools. Another is on a sociological level because the US is a younger country consisting of immigrants who left Europe or any other parts of the world in pursuit of the 'American Dream', no one likes to describe themselves as poor or working class as everyone aspires to suddenly make millions. Due to this the poor people in America do not have a culture of being low income and demanding state welfare. Also Americans overall tend to believe the free market is far better equipped to provide services than the state ever can, and that competition is beneficial, even in things like education and healthcare.
- Peter CLv 61 decade ago
They do not trust the Government to act in their best interests.
They strongly believe in self-responsibility and self determination. They don't like to see others less successful than themselves 'profiting' as it were from their labour.
They believe it is one of the first steps to a European style social democratic politics which they despise.
As to specific health care concerns;
They think they will get a worse service in terms of waiting times and diagnosis.
They think it will lead to a reduction in personal choice regarding physicians, hospitals, scheduling, type of intervention, etc.
They think it will hit them in the pocket, e.g. taxes will increase but their employer won't raise their salary because they no longer provide health insurance, even if they do they doubt it will be an equivalent amount.
The think it will cost a lot more than current provisions per se.
They think the government would eventually introduce rationing in some areas, e.g. 80 years old, need dialysis? Forget it.
And don't compare it with public education, even poor Americans would have voted against it on that basis given the terrible reputation most public schools have.
Source(s): Opinion from American friends, the points they all agree on. Note that they all have full health insurance provided by their employers. - 1 decade ago
Fear of the unknowns. The only known is taxes. People fear big government even when the Service would be beneficial. Political rhetoric clouds so many facts about health care. Big Insurance has so many Lobbyists that the congressmen and senators are willing to advertise the lobbyists opinion, then reporters write those words down, constituents read it and believe what they are told. This is how politics in general work in the US. BTW higher education is not paid for by the Government, only minor assistance for this.
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- ErikaLv 45 years ago
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
2 reasons. first, is americans culturally have a 'problem' with 'handouts.' they are so used to their private health care being part of their employment that their view is harsh - many believe that those who are uninsured deserve to be so as they are layabouts.
secondly, americans have heard too many horror stories about the NHS and other 'free' healthcare systems around the world. they are spooked at the idea of having to wait 3 years for an operation, or seeing a doctor who does NOT have an incentive to write a prescription or treat, and the rest.
it is horriffic that in the states if you are poor, and you get sick, you are basically f*cked. an american NHS would help these poor people, but too many middle class americans think it would be at their expense, that their own health care would worsen, and they are, to be fair, probably right.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Because braindead people confuse care and decency with socialism. If you say you are a christian how can it not be a good idea. You should have WELL PEOPLES clinics that give advice on keeping yourself healthy....ie: weight, smoking,drugs etc.
- 1 decade ago
Well for starters the majority are the lowest earners,the tax hike would be huge to them.As much as you may not like it,the NHS is being privatised a bit at a time Labour causing most of the damage.
- AlistairLv 61 decade ago
Because alot people are shouting about how universal health care is the first step towards socialism and communism.
A stupid argument I know.
- John J. SLv 71 decade ago
There is not, never was, and never will be "Free" universal health care. There may be universal health care, but it is paid for with tax dollars,
And i am a supporter of universal health care.