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If a US Court orders Utah to take down roadside crosses do you agree?
A federal appeals court on Wednesday ruled that roadside crosses erected in the pro-Jesus state of Utah to memorialize fallen Utah Highway Patrol officers violate the First Amendment’s prohibition of government endorsement of religion.
Do you support separation of Jesus and State?
22 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The federal appeals court for Utah is located in San Fransisco - not Utah.
Most people have no clue what separation of Church and State mean - it certainly doesn't mean that having road-side crosses on the freeway is a horrible thing - it means that the state will not force a religion on us.
I'm fine with roadside crosses - what other symbol would we use to memorialize fallen police? Although the LDS church doesn't use the cross as a symbol of Christ preferring to view Him as living rather than dead we don't get freaked out or look down on that either - it's a national tradition that is fine to take part in.
- phrogLv 71 decade ago
it's a stupid argument. utah has miles and miles of empty space roads...those occasional crosses (some even for hiway patrol) mark places on the hiway where somebody was killed in an accident. they "wake up" drivers. most people don't 'mourn' @these places, although there may be a couple that people may visit......the ones I consistently drive by are not 'maintained'. they are just a reminder to drive carefully. there is no other symbol you could put @the side of the road that would have the same impact on your awareness @75-80 mph. that's all.
we've come to the point where political correctness needs to be reigned in.
and as a side note: this is utah people - everyone is always billing utah as the 'home of the mormons' --- and railing on the mormons for not using crosses.......the crosses come thru tradition. it is common tradition to show crosses for fallen state people.
- palmermom3Lv 61 decade ago
If they are ordered to take down the memorials in Utah then they need to take apart Arlington National Cemetary and replace all the headstones with a more neutral one that doesn't have ANY religious affiliation at all. That way no one can be offended.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
Meh... Where I come from they have signs that are coffin shaped where deaths occurred. They serve the same purpose as the roadside crosses; that being to caution that certain places are places of risk and mortality so that drivers pay extra heed. Nothing whatsoever to do with separation of church and state. (This is an extraordinarily long stretch on your part.)
- ?Lv 71 decade ago
I think that the court may be taking things a bit far, but I do wonder if fallen Jewish troopers get a Star of David, Muslims get a crescent, etc. Besides, Ninth Circuit decisions rarely stand on further appeal.
- Zena IC XC NIKALv 71 decade ago
Well One Court Approved the Crosses on roadsides and the 9 Circuit Court overthrew the Approval
Probably will go to the Supreme Court.
Absolutely I approve :
Graves are Legal in USA/ and so are Crosses/ on them Thus I don't know why roadside crosses on the Mormon State of Utah should not be Legal.http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700031336
/Supreme-Court-decision-may-have-little-effect-on-Utahs-UHP-crosses-case.html
- arewethereyetLv 71 decade ago
1. A cross erected on private property would not violate anyone's 1st Amendment rights.
2. The government is not paying for them. The family pays for it ... or in this case, the charity that supports the officers and their families.
3. There is something else about this that is controversial, it is not what you are making it out to be.
- half_vast_dayLv 41 decade ago
I'm with phrog - this is just stupid.......
the appeals court said this......
“We hold that these memorials have the impermissible effect of conveying to the reasonable observer the message that the state prefers or otherwise endorses a certain religion."
and like phrog said -- this is UTAH people.......what religion is it suggesting that the state of Utah prefers? I'm just asking?
and yea, it could be construed as a governmental endorsement of christianity.....if you squint and twist off to the left.
Source(s): thank you for this elevated stupidity, american atheist, inc. - infidel-louieLv 51 decade ago
If this is being done on the state level then WTF does the feds have to do with it? Can't the people of a state recognize fallen troopers however the way they want without some panty waist lib getting all lathered up? Power belongs to the states i.e. the people, NOT the federal government!
- sandra deeLv 41 decade ago
I absolutely support the separation of all religion and State (not just Christianity). However, if the patrol officers themselves were Christian, I don't really see an issue besides PCness being taken too far.