In tomoe-nage, do you throw uke away, or do you roll with him?

LOL @ 1st clip at 0:40 where the ladies almost get squashed.

I would say the "correct" application would be determined by the situation.

If you felt the "uke" was far better at ground-fighting than you then throwing them away for distance is the appropriate strategy.

If, on the other hand, you felt you were much better at ground-fighting and wanted to proceed towards submission and/or a choke then rolling with them would be the appropriate strategy.

If they had a short bladed weapon then throwing them away rather than rolling with them would be the appropriate strategy.

I believe the judokas have modified the technique to roll with the uke because the progress of randori is to the ground fight once the take down is achieved. Since that progression is pretty much standard then the modification is appropriate for those circumstances/conditions.

I believe with an Aikidoka that more personal judgment and discretion must be used to make the decision on whether to toss away or to roll with.

That throw is really for throwing your partner away and increasing distance between him and you for getting up even though you roll with him to a point using your weight as a counter balance but I have seen it used where the person continues to maintain their grip and contact with their opponent and follow it up by rolling on top of him after he has been thrown. There are actually a couple of throws that are a lot better for this and one being Tarwara Gaeshi and another Yoko tomoe-nage both of which I like to use in grappling.

Either one. It's initially taught as throwing them away, but for Ne Waza roll.

Haha on Monday, two guys were going at it and one attempted Tomoe nage, to counter the other guy stepped on his crotch. That was the end of that.

Gotta watch those sacrifice throws.

Yoko Tomoe nage is pretty cool.

Both way are correct. Neither is more correct than the other. If it were me I would throw and roll. I would do this in order to control my attacker. If I just throw them I have no control. If I roll I can use my position to pin, choke, or use an arm bar.

Tomoe nage is a sacrifice throw. You sacrifice yourself by going to the ground. You can inadvertantly give your attacker a superior position. However, you can often surprise your attacker which lead you to having the superior position.

I know that a judoka in one of the classes I attend said that tomoe-nage in judo is usually done either to the ground (holding him close to your head), or to give distance (letting him roll away).

The way I was taught in the Bujinkan was the former initially, then coupled with a backroll (ushiro kaiten) to a mount with a quick strike to the throat. Please keep in mind, ours is probably not what you're looking for, but it might give you an idea of how it could be used.

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What will probably determine which variation you employ is whether or not you intend to pin or use mat work against uke.

If you are really fighting someone, you might want to throw a physically larger opponent away so as to allow you to set up your next defense (should the same be necessary).

If you are attempting to control your opponent on the ground then it might be best to roll with him so as to end up on top of him and hopefully have an advantage.

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in the kata version they tori throws uke away. but when i do it i like to roll up onto for mount. it makes sure that if you don't get ippon with the throw you have a pin.

I was shown neither lol how we did it was to do it as if you're throwing them away but keeping hold of them which keeps them close to you. From here we'd immediately go and hold down the opponent

Both.

It depends on what you want to outcome to be.

If you want to disperse the attacker and run, you throw him.

If you want to continue engaging, you follow him.

This technique is in Seiunchin Kata.