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Do you know why and how the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed contradict?
http://www.creeds.net/ancient/apostles.htm
http://www.creeds.net/ancient/nicene.htm
Which of the above creeds agrees with the Bible and which does not?
They do contradict. Apparently none of you have noticed. Why not?
It is interesting that not one person has contacted me off line to ask how they contradict.
This question has been out here for 5 days and no one has figured out the contradiction. Hint: All you need to do is read the two and compare them.
The Apostles Creed states that God the Father is the Creator. The Nicene Creed says that all things were created thru the Son.
That's the contradiction.
The Nicene Creed is correct.
See John chapter 1 and Colossians 1
11 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Yes, They Do contradict, The Apostles’ Creed is not found in the Bible. The Apostles’ Creed was not written by the apostles. Rather, it was written at least 150 years after the apostles had all died. It is called the Apostles’ Creed because it is supposed to be a record of what the apostles taught.
http://www.gotquestions.org/apostles-creed.html
"The Apostles’ Creed," the Nicene Creed is likely the most universally accepted and recognized statements of the Christian faith. The Nicene Creed was first adopted in A.D. 325 at the Council of Nicea. The Roman Emperor Constantine had convened the Council of Nicea in an attempt to unify the Christian church with one doctrine, especially on the issues of the Trinity and the deity / humanity of Jesus Christ.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Nicene-creed.html
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To Answer your question ? The the Apostles' Creed does Not, Reason? There are two primary concerns with the Apostles' Creed. First, in regards to the phrase "He descended into hell"
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Second, in regards to "the holy catholic church," this does not refer to the Roman Catholic Church as we know it today. The word "catholic" refers to universal. The true "catholic" church is all those who have placed their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation.
Source(s): TLS - 1 decade ago
The Apostles' Creed is so called because it is rightly considered to be a faithful summary of the apostles' faith. It is the ancient baptismal symbol of the Church of Rome. Its great authority arises from this fact: it is 'the Creed of the Roman Church, the See of Peter, the first of the apostles, to which he brought the common faith."
The Niceno-Constantinopolitan or Nicene Creed draws its great authority from the fact that it stems from the first two ecumenical Councils (in 325 and 381). It remains common to all the great Churches of both East and West to this day.
They developed at different times to address different problems, which is why they are worded differently. The Apostle's Creed is more primitive, and the Nicene Creed is more developed, having been written a few hundred years later.
They both serve roughly the same purpose.
- JackLv 41 decade ago
The only conflict I've ever heard of/taken notice of is the second line of the last stanza in the Nicene Creed, "who proceeds from the Father and the Son." Which to some sets aside the Holy Spirit from the Father and Son conflicting with the Trinity.
Other than that they are the same, the Nicene Creed elaborating more.
- ?Lv 41 decade ago
Well, maybe if I list the points I noticed that were different.
Nicene Creed has more details
1. God made everything visible and invisible.
2. Jesus Christ begotten before all worlds
3. he was "made man"
4. skipped the part where he descended in to hell
5. a whole section about the Holy Spirit and why we should worship him.
6. skipped the communion of saints part
7. baptism rates a mention here.
8. they "look for the resurrection of the dead". Does this imply it hasn't occurred yet?
Sorry I don't know quite enough about catholic doctrine to judge what's the contradiction. Strangely after a thorough reading of both, they seem less "trinitarian" than I had imagined. It's actually pretty close to what I believe (I'm LDS). I guess the full on trinity doctrines must just be in the Athanasian Creed.
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- 1 decade ago
The Nicene Creed is basically based off of the Apostles' Creed except that it has some additions dealing with the nature of God, because of the historical Arian threat to Christianity at this time.
So they're both right.
- Anonymous5 years ago
The apostles’ creed was sort of a summary of faith. Now the word “hell” does not always mean a place of suffering and torment. If you understand that the word “hell” means the grave and it says Jesus descended into “hell”, according to the prophecy of David, well Jesus did go to the grave. Some people believe that when Jesus died on the cross He didn’t really die, but Christ entered a new dimension; and He went and preached to spirits that were being tortured by the devil in Hades to give them another chance. That cannot be supported from the Bible. The Bible is very clear that this life is our only probation. ‘It is appointed unto man [Hebrews tells us] once to die, after this, the Judgment.’ The idea that once you die you get a second chance to accept salvation is totally un-Biblical. So some people have taken the apostles’ creed to support the idea the Jesus didn’t really die on the cross – of course the penalty for sin is death – but He entered another dimension; He began to preach to lost souls; and when He rose from the dead, He changed back into a human dimension again – um, and that I don’t agree with. They usually use, I think it’s a Scripture in 1st Peter to try to support that. He preached to spirits in prison it says. that’s talking about the Lord preaching to those who are in spiritual prison back in the days of Noah. It’s not talking about going to people who are dead. He did go to the grave. Remember the word “hell” – in most cases in the Bible – the word “hell”, in the Old Testament especially, is “Shehole”; and it means “the grave”. That’s all it means this "nicene creed" I have no info about probably because it is yet another catholic doctrine of "man" and not of God, so because I am no longer catholic, why would I keep much of their doctrines handy, for what purpose would it serve me? so Pastor Art, hope I helped a little???
- cashelmaraLv 71 decade ago
The Apostles' Creed is a brief statement of the fundamental Christian beliefs, a profession of faith. Tradition tells us that the Apostles' Creed was handed down from the Apostles themselves.
The best-known of all of the Christian creeds, the Nicene Creed was adopted at the Council of Nicaea in 325, in response to the Arian heresy.
The longest of the standard Christian creeds, the Athanasian Creed is an beautiful meditation on the doctrine of the Blessed Trinity. Ascribed to Saint Athanasius, the Athanasian Creed was traditionally recited in churches on Trinity Sunday.
The fourth ecumenical council, the Council of Chalcedon (451), dealt with the question of whether Jesus Christ is both fully God and fully man. The Chalcedonian Creed affirms that Christ is one Person with two natures, human and divine.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
starting this sunday in new zealand, and next pentecost in other countries the nicene creed will be as close to the latin as possible , so there will be more changes
something else you can find to whinge about
- PaulCypLv 71 decade ago
Both creeds cover the core beliefs of the original and true Christian Church, and both creeds are used by that Church. Some Protestant denominations may have rejected some of these core Christian beliefs, but the true Christian Church never rejects truth. Christ guaranteed that when He promised the leaders of the one Church He founded, "The Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth", and "Whatsoever you bind upon earth is bound in heaven".
Source(s): Catholic deacon - Anonymous1 decade ago
I prefer the Apostles Creed, because it was sad when he was killed in the ring by Ivan Drago.