December 25th, Christmas day? What need is there for Santa Clause, or an evergreen Tree?

Yes these pagan traditions with the lit up trees and presents are all nice but let us remind ourselves that they're inspired from a spirit that is from beneath----I do not equate Christmas with Jesus' birth----let's be careful here----

Sorry but you have been lied to. All that stuff about "Nimrod" is total invention, There is nothing about it in any historical documents at all. Nimrod is a biblical figure and does not exist in Babylonian stories at all.

The Christmas Tree is not a pagan symbol. Best bet is that it originally represented the Tree of Life form the Garden of Eden and, metaphorically, Jesus Christ himself. The evidence? Christmas Eve is counted as Adam and Eve's day in parts of Europe. The original tress were decorated with fruit. Very early Christian writers (as far back as 200 AD) talk about Christ being the new Tree of life whose fruit brings eternal life. European mystery plays performed at Christmas started with Adam and Eve and finished with the birth of Christ.

Santa Claus (no e) again is a Christian figure. He is based On Saint Nicholas, a 4th century Christian bishop who was renowned for his generosity to poor children. He was particularly popular in Germany and Holland and immigrants from those countries brought the idea to the USA.

The reason why groups like the JWs and others attack these ancient Christian customs and invent lies about them is because they believe they came from the Catholic church and basically they hate anything to do with Catholicism.

The general custom of decorating with green plants is biblical. See Leviticus 23:40

Dec. 25th. is definitely not the date on which Jesus was born. Holy Mother Church simply and arbitrarily chose it because She wanted to make sure that all Christians celebrated on the same day.

St. Nicholas was a fourth or fifth century bishop who went around giving dowries to girls of poor families. His feast day is on Dec. 6th.

The evergreen tree in Holy Roman Empire, which was neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire symbolized life in wintertime.

All three aspects jelled in the Middle Ages: I.E. Celebration, Gift-giving and a sense of warmth and friendship. There was nothing pagan about it, but like everything else, in America, everything became commercialized to the point where people forgot whose birthday they were celebrating.

Of course, ignorant unbelievers such as yourself and Atheists like to to have a field day on this because you will use anything you can invent to try and discredit Christianity in general and Holy Mother Church in particular. It was predicted by Our Lord Jesus Christ when He said: "They will hate you and persecute you".

The Christmas tree is of pagan origin, not Jewish. Many of the decorations traditional to it now come from Judeo-Christian roots, however. "Tree Decorating - There is some debate on the origin of this tradition. Druids (and some other ancient cultures) saw evergreen trees as symbols of everlasting life, because they seemed to live through the winter undaunted by the cold. So using evergreen branches as decorations symbolized the undying strength of the Sun. Decorating the trees may have come from the ancient Roman festival of Saturnalia (see below for more on Saturnlia). " .

Everything about this Holiday is Pagan. Nothing has to do with the birth of Christ. He was not even born in Dec.Dec 25th coincides with the SUN god not SON. These practices were instilled by the catholic church to appeal to the pagan heathens they were attempting to convert.Xmas is the worlds biggest money making scam and should be abolished. Early Christians never recognized the birth of a person but the death.Christs birthdays never mentioned in the scriptures.

Santa Claus, clause is a legal term.

I say if anyone wants to have a tree and celebrate Santa, let them have at it. It's not your business what people do in their homes.

Have a blessed Solstice!

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If people want to celebrate their Jesus with a tree, they should. It's the intent, not the symbolism. I have a hard time believing decent people are cast out for putting up a tree and spreading cheer.

yes - most Christians in general know that dec 25 is not the birth date of the lord Jesus -it is estimated to be in November i think .

yes the tree and many other practices are of pagan origin./

yes we are free to reinterpret anything that is created and give it our own meaning - many Christians do this

ie the tree -upon which the lord was hanged and became a curse for us is remembered

the decorations are the stars that shone the night of his birth - the gifts we give one to another to remember the great gift God gave for us etc

there are so many wonderful analogies we can use and should .

Santa Claus who is actually Saint Nicholas (if you say it fast and repeat it then you begin to say santa claus instead of st.nicholas) . stories of him were brought to this country by the settlers. he gave many gifts and things to people (especially children). He was a much revered saint of the dutch i think. it is with saint nicholas that the tale of the guy in the red suit and beard began. im sure that you can google his name and find out where all of this came from.

Where does the bible state the date? It was a celtic holiday which just got adopted. Later, the Coca Cola Company added Santa by modifing At. Nicholas for profit.

Well, yeah it's a pagan practice. It's called "Yule" and it's a celebration about the promise of Spring coming after a long, dark winter. That's why it's so close to the Winter Solstice.