Are the silk reeling and the pulsing (sink/float) energy training methods compatible? (Trained in parallel)?

Another great question from you as always!

You can train them that way however it is not necessary. I always revert to the idea that repetition will cause your technique to manifest when it is necessary, whether you train in them separately or in conjunction.

Now, if you wanted to make your training more interesting, you can do whatever you want. When you are teaching, you teach in order... a,b,c,d,e,f, etc. This is to instill the art onto the student. When the student trains at home, they run through the routines, for further development of instinct, but they must also make special time to combine things like what you are suggesting.

As far as bring your art together, you don't worry about that. It does this automatically.

I never trained in combining my arts, yet, they all manifest when I am doing tegumi, randori, etc.

Like when I make a stew. I mince my garlic, cut my onions and peppers, shave my corn, cut my potatoes. And all these things go in at different points during the process. By the time the lid goes on the pot, all is in and simmering. The result is a fusion of all the ingredients united with all the flavors and textures. It appeals to the five senses, because you gotta lick your fingers!

This is the result of your training.

Man, I am starving!

Are you talking about Tai Chi silk reeling? Tai Chi is a martial art and is taught as such. Silk reeling is an exercise that teaches strength (internal and external), timing and how to properly shift your weight. It also teaches to properly root, yet still be light on the top. While a lot of people do Tai Chi for health it is still a martial art with the benefit of health if it is trained properly. A strong body is a healthy body. There is nothing mysterious about Tai Chi even though a lot of people make it into something it is not. My teacher always laughs at the westerners asking him about the mysterious powers of chi because to him it is not mysterious but something that is just there and part of life.

Pulsing is a tibetan healing method deeply rooted in the mystical and spiritual believes. So no, I do not think they are compatible at least not with the Tai Chi I have seen and studied.

Silk reeling is more to stabilize the lower body while pulsing concerns itself more with upper body applications such as hand strikes or trap holds.

Because silk reeling concerns itself with all of the body, it can include hand strikes or grappling, counter rotation techniques to deflect force, but it's done using a stability system that is based upon equations for triangles. At any point in time, the triangle has to be balanced between the upper body and lower body (two legs). When a force is exerted forward, balance adjustments along one side of the triangle must be made. If the triangle becomes too distorted, it'll collapse. The same applies if an incoming force is received. Thus balance and timing serves as a priority focus for silk reeling.

Pulsing, however, is not necessarily done with the lower body or the entire body in motion. One often sees it used for a short strike without moving. Thus, it doesn't require as much timing, because the point of a short strike that doesn't require complicated balancing systems is to allow an attack to proceed from a blind spot or disadvantageous space: oftentimes via straight line applications.

Given the current understanding I have of the two related subjects, I would say that silk reeling is a set that is more complete and principle based while pulsing is a more specific set of applications of a general principle.

Thus pulsing is simply an application of silk wheeling, localized to a specific part of the body in motion rather than attempting to apply to the entire body in motion. To pulse, one must have a specific timing in the muscle contractions and relaxations. For purposes of accuracy as well as power.

In terms of absolute power, SR is more powerful than shock power due to the greater masses involved and the addition of circular, deflection, usages rather than straight line to line contests.

Many of the short range boxing styles of Southern Shaolin kung fu, uses a straight line application, like Wing chun, if they are in a situation where they do not need to close the range or are unable to have enough time to generate maximum power and must strike a target before the opportunity goes away.

I would comment that much of the purported power of Tai Chi users are due to silk reeling, if we speak solely of whole body movements and not specialized applications of silk reeling without a root base or as a description of dantian rotation.

ISDS, you should have seen the demonstration techniques already. The system I train under doesn't talk about silk reeling or pulsing, but I ended up learning about it anyways because it's the same principle, taught using different applications. That's why when I saw Tai Chi forms, it looked a little bit too similar. Whereas other forms in other arts, did not.

To make it faster for the student to absorb, the upper body mechanics were de-prioritized in favor of solely proper leg structure. As students performed the proper leg movements and got that structure down, they could then start to build up the body through the spine, until they can get to the arms. Of course, in practice a more holistic approach is used, but the fastest rate of advancement is always through mastering the leg dynamics first. People usually worry about proper bone and spine alignment in the upper body afterwards, since it isn't nearly as critical.

Great answer by Scandal.

I don't practice either. I was however asked by a student once why I include things like tumbling drills and Pilate's in my classes during work outs. My reply was to wait and see where the tumbling fit for balance and recovery and the other work outs helped strengthen muscles used to support those more frequently used in Taekwando. My personal philosophy about including parallel training is that if it does not take too much time away from my main training than it is worth doing especially for advanced students. Which is why we use Tai Chi, meditation, Qui Gung, calisthenics, running, balance drills, weapons training and more. Of course there is no time to become experts at everything. Some will find it more worthwhile to focus on some things more than others. We are all not alike.

I'm sorry for rambling as I said Scandal has a good answer.

Thanks for adding the vids

I thought while watching the second clip that this is the underlying principal of from loose to tight to generate power my Master has been pounding in our heads for years. From relaxed and fluid to exploding just inside your target.

That is all involved in Chen Style Taijiquan. Silk Reeling conditions ur body to move fluidly and promotes Chi flow through ur body and helps clear blocked Chi channels. The way u describe that pulsing power sounds alot like Fajing. Both are just parts of Chen Style Taijiquan curriculum.

Silk Reeling is a very basic form of training. Fajing is sometimes taught a year later or when ur Sifu thinks ur ready to learn.

There is alot involved in Chen Style Taijiquan that im still discovering.

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