Has anyone ever actually filled out an application for welfare type assistance?

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You do realize that one of the first things they ask for is a valid Social Security number, right?  If you don't have one that can be verified, application denied.  Ditto for some kind of photo ID proof of address, and about 500 other pieces of information.

I'm not saying that in the history of the welfare system there has never been someone who managed to fake their way through the system, but the overwhelming majority of welfare recipients are good old fashioned legal US residents.  Even allowing for those "anchor" babies that everyone is worried about, their parents cannot get anything other than emergency medical treatment paid for for themselves.  Any food stamp, TANF, WIC, or medicaid benefits that they receive for their children are based on the amount that the state determines the CHILD needs to eat, have toilet paper purchased for them, eat, or go to the doctor.

Public Aid offices are government offices.  Illegal aliens as a general rule try and avoid being noticed by people who could have them deported.  They are much more likely to come here, find work, and depend on help from family and friends than they are to get busy popping out a bunch of kids so that they can try to eke out a living on public assistance.

Yes, their children attend our public schools.  They also pay either rent that pays the property taxes, or they pay the property taxes themselves, that helps support those schools.  They pay sales tax when they purchase things, which in some states also supports the schools.  If they are lucky enough to find work with an employer that doesn't just pay them under the table to avoid getting busted or paying unemployment insurance, disability insurance, or any of the other costs associated with having an employee, then they get a check and have income, SSN and other taxes withheld.  Difference is that they never file to get their refund and credits back come tax time, so the government gets to keep that money.

Unless you know an illegal immigrant personally and have evidence that they are taking what is rightfully yours, you really should do your research first.

Sir Studley Smugley · Accepted Answer

The illegal alien thing is little more than a conservative talking point that they brought up and overblew so that they could hammer Obama with it during the '08 campaign and during his Administration. It didn't get nearly as much attention while Bush was in office - except Lou Dobbs. If there weren't people hiring illegals, they wouldn't be trying to sneak across the border.

Anonymous · Answer

I am from Los Angeles. I have met and known Burittoloads of illegal aliens. In California there is no public assistance.  that illegals are afraid to show up at.  Their own consular tells them this.  If they are working under the table (which they DO) and collect food stamps, welofare, bus tokens and other vouchers on their litter of 15 kids (Which believe me is NO paltry sum), itsw FRAUD which should be punishable BY JAIL. OMG they pay rent! Yes they have 16 people in a 2 bedroom apt and you got your lips on their filthy genitals because that goes towards PROPERTY TAX?  IF EVERY WHITE LIBERAL WAS ORDERED TO PUT THEIR SPOILED BRAT KIDS IN PUBLIC SCHOOL WITH THE ANCHOR BABIES THE WALL WOULD BE BUILT TOMMOROW.

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I look at illegal immigration much like illegally hitching a ride on say a train.  When you do that, you may very well make it all the way to your destination.  But if you get caught, you're not surprised if they boot you off and you are stuck in the middle of nowhere.  And you certainly don't expect them to give you meals and services provided to non-stow-aways. It should be no surprise no matter what your situation is that if you get caught as an illegal immigrant that you and everyone you entered illegally with get deported.

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1.4% of all welfare payments according to the Labor Department is fraudulent

24% of all applications in 2010 in San Diego contained some sort of fraud

 Dorothy Woods claimed 38 non-existent children.

 Esther Johnson collected $240,000 for more than 60 fictitious children

 Arlens Otis was charged with 613 counts of illegally receiving $150,839 in welfare funds between July 1972 and February 1978.

There is far more fraud and abuse then you think

Anonymous · Answer

How about the "Juan" that totaled my BMW with no state required insurance and then ran back to Mexico. He bought the car by lying that he had insurance, lying about his address, the car didn't pass safety inspections...and his name really was Juan. So good old Juan ripped of the state and ME

There are many good people that require assistance. It makes it difficult for the those that are not entitled to it because of their citizenship status to get the help they need.
I think you are delusional if you think fraud is a isolated case and if you think they pay their fair share to the US.

Anonymous · Answer

The babies of illegal aliens get all the social services, medicaid and free education being the biggest. Couple that with the fact that illegal aliens are the type of people that don't pay much in taxes and you can see why states are going broke.

Nicholas J · Answer

The joke is that people think welfare fraud represents a noteworthy portion of the state's budget.

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They use phony ones like they do for work. And they get aid all the time you figure it out.

casually defiant · Answer

LOL sweety...I've had people use my social security number..I've had to go to the social security department and have them print up a piece of paper saying that MY soc sec # was MINE..apparently my card and ID wasnt enough

and yes...illegals DO get welfare...THEIR ANCHOR BABIES ARE LEGAL yw 4 the 411

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i think your whole paragraph is a blanket statement. i dont care if you think i think they are taking 
  what is mine. it is my job to get my ten percent from everyone. sense i probly no moore imigrants 
   than you. i will send them over to your house to get my 10 percent from you.

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Has anyone ever actually filled out an application for welfare type assistance?

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