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Industrial psychology and university of phoenix.?
Hi,
I am considering a degree in industrial/ organizational psyc from the university of phoenix. what i want to know is will i be able to get a job with this degree? i see people saying that its tough to get a job with a degree from this school but i never find students who complain about the job market. all i see is people who never went or dropped out complaining about the school.
so what am i up against when i graduate? will i be able to get a good job?
when people say that employers toss apps into the trash what employers are they talking about?
i know if i were to apply to a job that wants people out of harvard or other such schools will reject a U of P degree but is this an across the bored issue?
8 Answers
- Doc MartinLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
What are you up against? Employers have been known to toss all job applications listing a U of Phoenix degree directly into the trash...
- 1 decade ago
Psychology is one of those fields where you need at least a Master's degree to get a job specific to that major. Having an undergrad in Psychology is no different from having an undergrad in political science, history, or art. All it's really broadcasting to employers is that you have the tenacity to follow through on your commitments by getting a Bachelor's degree. If you plan on becoming an industrial psychologist, you will need graduate school to be able to apply what you've learned and command an income for it and having an online undergrad will really hurt your chances at getting into a decent graduate program. Online degrees are great for people already in their job and needing that extra credential so they can get promoted and often their employers are willing to reimburse them the tuition.
Your chances at getting a job will be the same for anyone just graduating with an online degree and no real work experience so you'll start at the bottom and have to work your way up. However, when it comes to job advancement, you will be a step ahead of those who don't have a degree if it's a professional job. What I would do is look into a local university and apply there and many have online classes now and many businesses post internships at the local colleges and that will be your best bet to getting your foot in the door with a good company. Finish your Bachelor's in Psychology (if that's your passion), get some work experience under your belt, and then decide if you want to further your education at the graduate level.
The other possibility is if you do really well in your undergrad at the local college, the school may even encourage you to continue on there with a Master's and pay you a stipend to work at the college to continue your studies.
- ?Lv 45 years ago
Just go to a regular school man, I considered going after getting 2 AA degrees from a community college but then I learned how ridiculously expensive they were compared to a full blown university. Cost is about $70,000 for 4 years. Plus my husband is an officer recruiter in the Air force and the gov't jobs will not hire people with degrees from these institutions. They do a lot of group work in the classrooms I was told by a friend who went there, he didnt like it because most of the grades were based on group projects which makes your grade dependent on others who may not be that motivated. Plus once you go to inquire they will bug the hell out of you, I have gotten calls from them about every 3 months asking what I am doing with my education at the moment.
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- ChucklesLv 71 decade ago
Schools like University of Phoenix, ITT Tech, DeVry, Corinthian, Kaplan and others are "for profit" schools. Also most of the various “Art Institutes” in many cities. Also known as “proprietary schools”. They tend to be very expensive, the qualifications of the instructors range from very good to awful and their credits are seldom transferable. In addition, most employers only consider candidates from these schools if there are no suitable applicants from a more traditional school.
A for-profit institution has one goal above all: to make money.
Admissions and recruitment personnel at these schools are instructed to use any means possible to convince you to enroll. This includes tactics such as misleading people on how much financial aid they are truly eligible to receive, using pressure tactics such as telling a prospective student there is only one seat left in a class, and telling students that their credits will transfer anywhere.
These schools offer a lot of online programs and this is not to say that online programs are bad. They are not. Some are very good. Even the for profit schools can give you a reasonable education. There are many people who have graduated from these schools and started to make a good living. My objection is that the education they give you is incredibly expensive compared to traditional and non-profit schools, whether online or not. Overall experience is that grads from these schools take a fair bit longer to find jobs than grads from more traditional schools and they have a lot more debt.
Other on line schools like UCLA Extension or Athabasca University in Canada are fully accredited and seen to be excellent ways to get an education. Basically, what you want is the online division of a traditional accredited university to get an online degree that counts for something.
As for going to the classroom courses offered by these for profit schools, even the claimed to be bachelors level courses the for profit schools offer are considered at best by employers to be on par with what you get from a community college. But often they are nowhere close. However, a community college will be far cheaper and community college credits are transferable to a 4 year university in most cases. Credits from the for profit schools seldom will transfer anywhere. The for profit schools even mention this in their TV ads, at least here in California.
Some say they are accredited but to check, call your closest state university and check to see if they will accept credits earned from one of these schools. Unless they can say absolutely for sure yes, the answer is no. DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
That is, few other schools will accept credits from them. However, it appears that Point Park University in Pittsburgh may accept some credits from proprietary schools. See http://www.pointpark.edu/, http://www.pointpark.edu/Admissions/TransferStuden... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Park_University
Have a look at these links:
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2...
http://ca.mg2.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=1&.rand...
http://www.pissedconsumer.com/
http://www.complaintsboard.com/
Basically it says these schools are just student loan mills where they get you to sign for big student loans and then they do the minimum possible so you get an education. Just enough so you keep coming. Whether you get a job or default on the loan afterward is irrelevant to them.
I have heard many stories from people who have gone to these for profit schools who have been left with a bigger debt than many graduates from a traditional 4 year university while still not being able to get a job. I personally know a part time instructor for one of these schools and he had to quit after two semesters as he could not keep his mouth shut any longer about how expensive it was compared to a community college or a state university.
It has been reported at: http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/07/24/report-feds-do... that 40% of students that took out loans to go to these “for profit” schools end up in default. With a corresponding hole in those student’s ability to get credit for other things.
In the current academic year (2010), the average tuition and fees a for-profits was $14,000, compared with $2,500 for the average community college.
So if you want an online school make sure it is the extension department of a “bricks and mortar” school. And before you sign, call the registrar’s office of your state university whether they will accept the credits for transfer. If the state university will not accept the credits, run away from signing with one of these “for profit” schools. State universities are a great bargain over online colleges, and you'll get a better education.