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Should Climatologists be charged with Fraud?
Seismologists are being charged with manslaughter for failing to predict the "La Aquila" earthquake, should Climatologists who make predictions about climate change which do not turn out to be correct, but result in additional costs to everyone, have criminal charges of Fraud and/or Extortion brought against them by the civil authorities? As a group they claim to be able to predict that anthropogenic climate change will make the earth's climate untenable for some species, should they be held liable criminally for those predictions if they are not correct?
Hey Dook: Obviously, the charges against the seismologists in Italy are real. Your claim that they are falsely charged is not germane to the question. Climate scientists have already made statements and issued opinions which have altered the lives of those who live in the United States. The listing of Polar Bears as a threatened species is the direct result of opinions that they are a potential victim of "global warming". My question is simple, should these scientists be help criminally liable for statements which may not be correct?
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- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
Yes! They should be charged with all sorts of things, including fraud and extortion! It is the biggest hoax since......well I can't think of a bigger hoax. The earth's climate is constantly in change, there is never a time period where the climate was perfectly "stable" and CO2 levels were "normal". A few thousand years ago, the place I live in right now was covered in a mile thick sheet of ice. Man contributed nothing to the melting of the ice, because man barely had any technologies that produced CO2, but it melted anyway. A few billion years ago, CO2 levels were almost 7,000% higher than they are now. If I'm correct, the levels were about 7,000 ppm, and now they are about 130 ppm. The earth's climate is constantly in flux, there is no one direct cause.
- SwanFoxLv 41 decade ago
They should at least be investigated. This is a huge misuse of science, the money, time and resources that have been wasted on global warming research should be use to find cheaper sources of energy.
The climate has changed and species have gone extinct throughout the Earths history,long before humans even existed.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Nobody of that feild should be charged. They only predict it by evedince given but not all the time it is correct. If we are going to charge them for saughter then i saw charge Army officals for murder since they kill with the intent to kill yes they protect but they still kill just like the predict to protect the people yet they do not kill intentionally. I mean you try to predict weather for every day you try to predict something that could possible happen you tell the city to oh evacuate there might be an earth quake nobody will really care because its possible but it might not happen
- IanLv 51 decade ago
I think the majority of them are misguided. Remember, these "scientists" are basing most of their beliefs about global warming on faulty data from NASA and others. The ones who fabricate data like Michael Mann definitely should be charged.
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- BaccheusLv 71 decade ago
Rather than ranting, please provide a specific example.
Please name the specific climatologist and the specific claim of predicting that climate change will make the climate untenable for some species that has not come true.
I'll bet that this "asker" has nothing to say once she is pinned down to specifics. A lot of rather dim-witted people like to come here and rant ignorantly, but really can't explain what they are talking about because they don't know. I can easily be proved wrong here, if I am wrong, by the asker simply providing an example of what she is talking about.
I think this asker is either a dishonest person, or one who has never read what climatologists actually say.
As for the La Aquila seismologists, you are referring to the court system in Italy which we know to be deeply flawed. Very little climate research has been conducted in Italy, so your associating the event further shows ignorance of the actual events. As to your question, no I would not recommend any other court system to emulate the Italian system.
- ?Lv 71 decade ago
what makes you think the predictions are wrong? So far, they have been on track with margin of error. the climate models of twenty years ago accurately forecast temperature rises over the last 20 years.
the ones who should be charged are the fossil fuel industries who continue to fund denier organizations and preventing the science.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Should they be charged with fraud? No, I think treason is a better charge. Some of these thieving, lying commie "scientists" should be sent to prison for life and see their ill-gotten wealth confiscated and given back to the taxpayers. They stole part of America's treasure and polluted young minds with garbage and manure.
- ChemFlunkyLv 71 decade ago
Predicting the future is always risky and difficult, especially for any complex system.
But in the case of those seismologists, there was ongoing low-level seismic activity, that seismologists were saying would not lead to a serious earthquake. So that would be the equivalent of someone, say, noticing the various signs of global warming we have already seen and saying confidently "Nah, it'll level off soon.". That is, someone making predictions not reasonably in line with observable evidence.
- GABYLv 71 decade ago
Not if it was just a theory, like AGW is. If they purposely altered data to make money or some other gain to fool people, then yes.
- JimZLv 71 decade ago
I would say those on here that pretend to be climatologists and who are generally clueless about science in general and climate history in particular should be charged with fraud. They also should be charged for idiocy for being useful idiots in the eco-Marxist campaign to rewrite climate history.
Charging seismologists is ridiculous. We don't know enough about earthquakes to adequately predict them. Similarly, we don't know enough about climate to accurately predict them in spite of the self proclaimed climatologist ridiculous attempts to convince us otherwise. The most ignorant among us are those who don't understand how ignorant they are. Marxists liked to claim the mantle of science back in the 1800s when Karl Marx looked at budding democracy in America with hatred and revulsion. They have been doing so ever since.
Here is the climate history as told by IPCC in 1990 before the eco-Marxists created a deliberate plan to remove the medieval wamring period (second page of link)
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/hoye/hoye040909....
Climate in Chile, China, and New Zealand prove it was a global event yet those with an agenda can't let facts threaten their Marxists agenda. I realize some people shy away from accusations of Marxism but in the interest of truth, it is important not to dance around the facts. We have these Marxists rampant in Obama's administration starting with the self proclaimed community organizer himself. If you refuse to identify your opponent, you will never win. Alarmists are seldom hesitant to strike out at christianity, capitalism, or private property.