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Wings fans (or anyone) Now that Osgood has retired should Det retire his number?
Does he deserve to have his number hanging with the likes of no 1, #7,#9, #10,#12 and 19?
Most of you figured out this wasn't really a retire number question but more of a does he belong in the HHOF question. I think its a given that the number doesn't get retired. I think that looking at it from that perspective you see that he is rather a ordinary goalie who benefited from a long career on great teams. Then we stop thinking of stats and comparing him to other HOF goalie's numbers.
Mike T, I too would rank Joseph above Osgood, not that I would put either of them in. Many use the Grant Fuhr example of Cups on a great team with avg stats. The one thing Fuhr as that Osgood doesn't is a vezina as the leagues top goalie.
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- Anonymous10 years agoFavorite Answer
Nope and I don't think he should make the HHOF to be honest.
The guy is a perfect example IMO of a goalie who benefited from playing on some really good teams. This is not to say he didn't have a good career or wasn't a good goalie... he was... but he simply was never HHOF calibre in my books. His statistics (the 400 wins in particular) look a lot better then they appear because of his longevity and the fact that he played a good chunk of his career with a stacked Detroit Red Wings team.
On the topic of the HHOF (I know this wasn't your question, but I want to finish my thought on it), I would prefer someone like Curtis Joseph get in over Osgood. Joseph was arguably a superior goalie, but got the opposite of what Osgood did... get stuck with some really bad teams.
- trombass08Lv 610 years ago
I joked once with my brother that Osgood may be the only Wing to have an easier time getting his number retired than getting in the HHOF. But, with the extremely high pedigree that the Detroit franchise has in the rafters, I'm not so sure he gets up there. It may take a HHOF spot for Illitch to put the number in the rafters. However, I do expect some sort of Chris Osgood celebration next year, similar to that of other Wings players not named Yzerman, Howe, Lindsay, Delvecchio, Abel, or Sawchuk.
Run Away: Why would it matter what he wore on the Island? He was number 30 here. (Different sport but...) Should the Bulls take down Jordan's number 23 because he wore 45 for half a year?
And as for the multiple teams argument, that is also moot. Howe, Sawchuk, Lindsay, and Abel all played for different NHL teams during their careers (Sawchuk with at least 6 teams) and all of them have their numbers retired with the Wings.
- Captain ClutchLv 410 years ago
I'm not a Red Wings fan but my opinion is no. I mean no disrespect to him, but the Red Wings were so talented it didn't seem to matter who was in net. Not saying Osgood was bad, he was a good goalie but not great. He just had to make the saves he needed to make and not steal games like other Stanley Cup teams may have needed their goalies to do. Just take a look at the 2002 Red Wings, having a great goalie like Hasek in net just wasn't fair lol. So no I don't think he should get his number retired but if he does, it will likely be because of the number of Cup teams he was a part of. I don't think he should get in the HHOF either but again, number of Cups may put him in there. (Especially considering it dosen't seem hard to get in the HHOF)
- oni_link_04Lv 510 years ago
No. Osgood had the luxury of playing behind a rebuilt and redesigned Red Wings team. Here are two reasons why Osgood won't get his number retired: Mike Vernon and Dominik Hasek. Both won Cups behind essentially the same Detroit teams. Osgood started for two Cups and backed up a third, but substituting goalies could have been done. He was good, but nothing overly special.
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- Expat MikeLv 710 years ago
If you look at the Wings' history retiring numbers, they fall into two categories: The star players who changed the game whose numbers are retired almost immediately (Howe and Yzerman), and the players who were stars for the Wings but maybe not in that superstar echelon (Sawchuk, Lindsey, etc.) that have had their numbers retired more than a decade after they retired. Osgood, if anything, would be in that second category. If history dictates anything, Osgood's number won't be retired for quite some time.
- 10 years ago
based on the wings history of number retiring they probably will not
That doesn't diminish Osgood greatness, ignore those who claim he played behind a great team. Look who Roy got to play behind, nobody belittles him for it and Ozzie has a better GAA than him.
Play with a great goalie and you are able to play freer. Him being in net helped allow Yzerman and others to play better. Is he the best all time, no but hall of fame yes, without question. Compare his stats to others in the hall, you will be shocked at how well he stands up
- Anonymous10 years ago
osgood was an above average goaltender who is a good starting goaltender in his prime and nothing more. I think he played for a good team for most of his carreer and his 400 wins is because of that. In his last couple years I despised him and I tried to blame everything on him. If his number is retired I will be dissapointed because I don't think he deserves it.
And to PJ S, I dont think that GAA is a goalie statistic, I think its a team statistic that reflects how well the team in front of their goalie plays. You could have 5 goals in 65 shots and have a good save percentage but a terrible GAA. That shows the team in front of him faltering. Im saying that GAA is a combination between goalie play and defencive play.
- 10 years ago
would you all say luongo is a great goalie, ryan miller perhaps, great goalies are needed night in and night out, as vancouver showed in the SC finals this year when lou faltered, osgood was a very good goalie and he had to be great to win his three cups get real guys, he will eventually end up in the HHOF in my opinon and hes nothing overly special haha come on now, in my opinion they should retire it, but they probably wont.
- 10 years ago
Really good question...definitely a head-scratcher!
He's nowhere near the calibre of a Howe, Yzerman, etc. He was run out of town once. Never the face of the franchise (like a Yzerman). Not beloved.
A pretty good goaltender who hung around for a while...but I'm not sure that being "pretty good" merits having a number retired.
Not really a guy whose number you retire.
- Anonymous10 years ago
No, for three reasons. First, the number 30 is an iconic goalie number, and shouldn't be taken away from any teams. Second, he was number 35 for the Isles, and third, he played for multiple teams in his career.