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in math, does ab+c= b+ac?

like, does 5b+40= b+200

Update:

thanks, i had a bit of a brain block there, but is there any way i could simplify 5b+40?

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  • 10 years ago
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    ab+c = b+ac

    clearly not ! As you said ; you had a bit of a brain block!

    whether you call rewriting 5b+40 with brackets as a simplification is for you to decide

    but 5b+40 is the same as adding 8 to b then multiplying the answer by 5 , written algebraically as

    5(b+8)

  • 10 years ago

    Only for specific values of a, b, and c... the real answer to your question is no, but there exist values for a, b, and c (a specific single set of values) that would make it true.

    To find these values, we simply solve for one of the variables.

    As a simple example, if a, b, and c all equal 1:

    1*1 + 1 = 1 + 1*1

    1 + 1 = 1 + 1

    2 = 2

    true

    So this is true if a = b = c, because in this case, it doesn't matter what a, b, or c are as long as they are equal:

    let a = x, let b = x, let c = x

    x*x + x = x + x*x

    x^2 + x = x + x^2

    x(x + 1) = x(1+x)

    x + 1 = 1 + x

    this is true for any value x

    If, however, a, b, and c are not all the same, there are still certain specific values for a, b, and c that would make this equation true. For example, let a = 1, and b and c could be any values:

    ab + c = b + ac

    1b + c = b + 1c

    b + c = b + c

    However, for most values of a, b, and c, the equation does not hold true. To illustrate, let's pick 2, 3, and 4:

    2*3 + 4 = 3 + 2*4

    6 + 4 = 3 + 8

    10 = 11

    not true

    Hope this helps!

    Edit: I don't usually like to contradict others, but I must point out that Jeff's declaration that "The original equation is only true if a = 1 or b = c, otherwise it's false." is not accurate.

    Let a = 2, b = 4, and c = 6:

    2*4 + 6 = 4 + 2*6

    8 + 6 = 4 + 12

    14 = 14

  • 10 years ago

    ab + c =? b + ac

    Sometimes, but the answer is no.

    5b + 40 = b + 200

    4b = 160

    b = 40

    In this case, when a = 5, b = 40 and c = 40 the answer is yes. But this is just because b and c are equal. If b and c are equal, you can rewrite the equation as:

    ab + b = b + ab

    b(a + 1) = b(1 + a)

    That is true.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    10 years ago

    Generally speaking, no. For instance, let's take b = 1; you're saying that 5 + 40 = 1 + 200...last I checked, 54 and 201 were very different numbers.

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  • 10 years ago

    no

    a = 2

    b = 5

    c = 40

    ab + c = 10 + 40 = 50

    b + ac = 5 + 80 = 85

  • 10 years ago

    ab + c = b + ac

    ab - ac = b - c

    a(b - c) = b - c

    a = (b - c) / (b - c)

    a = 1, unless b - c = 0

    a = 1, unless b = c

    The original equation is only true if a = 1 or b = c, otherwise it's false.

    5b + 40 = b + 200

    5b - b = 200 - 40

    4b = 160

    b = 160/40

    b = 40

    The original equation is only true if b = 40, otherwise it's false.

  • Anonymous
    10 years ago

    No.

    Counterexample: a = -1, b = 2, c = 3

    ab+c = 1

    b+ac = -1

  • CwCc
    Lv 7
    10 years ago

    It holds for certain values of a,b,c, but not in general. In that sense, the equation is a constraint, not an identity.

  • 10 years ago

    it depends on the variable

  • 10 years ago

    clearly no .. just substitute any value for b and you'll see it is wrong

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