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Same-Sex Marriage: Divorcing personal beliefs from the law?

Let's say, as a hypothetical, that it's the mid-1960s, and that I'm a white supremacist, a particularly nasty one at that. Not only do I encourage de facto segregation, but I flat-out hate blacks, Hispanics, and Asians as well for that matter. And, more than that, I think that the idea of interracial marriage is one of the most vile possible abominations in the eyes of both nature and God. The notion of a white person marrying a black person turns my stomach, and if a child of mine had so much as a black *friend*, I'd disown them.

Now, I've established myself as the most reprehensible of bigots, and a horrific, contemptible human being. Okay, so far, so good. Here's the question:

*Is* is absolutely *inconceivable* that, despite my incredibly passionate (albeit incredibly warped) perceptions and opinions on race, I, as someone who understands and respects the law, do *not* support legislation that makes interracial marriage illegal? Is it possible that, as distasteful as I may personally find the notion of interracial marriage, and as staunchly as I may oppose the marriages themselves, I *must* from an intellectually honest position acknowledge that other American citizens are entitled to the same protections under the law that protect *me*, and that my individual views are not a valid legal justification for denying other people the rights that the Constitution affords them?

*Or*, do you contend that, because of my personal beliefs, I literally have no choice but to *legally* oppose interracial marriage by resorting to ineffectual tripe, such as meaningless semantic nonarguments ("I don't oppose 'interracial marriage', because there's no such thing; the definition of 'marriage' is a union between a man and a woman of the same race"), pithless witlessisms ("God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Shaniqua"), personal religious views with no legal weight whatsoever ("interracial marriage is against God's will"; "allowing interracial couples to marry is another giant step in the moral decline of society and the decay of our nation's Christian values"), patently false scare-mongering tactics ("If interracial marriage becomes legal, the government will force churches to perform them against their will"), biological ignorance ("the purpose of marriage is to produce racially-pure babies, and interracial couples are incapable doing this"), appeals to tradition ("society has never accepted marriage between interracial couples before, so we don't have to do so now"), idiotic non sequiturs based on a lack of understanding of the law and other topics ("if you allow a black person to marry a white person, what's to stop someone from marrying their dog next?"), or any other so-called "arguments" that have absolutely no legal or, in most cases, even logical validity?

If you believe the former, that I *can* divorce my personal opinion from my understanding of the workings of the law, then why can't people who oppose same-sex marriage do the same today?

And if you believe the latter, then what makes opponents of same-sex marriage any different than those who opposed interracial marriage in the '60s? They may not display, or even possess, quite the same levels of hatred and vitriol as my hypothetical white supremacist, and in fact I intentionally used the most extreme, hateful personality in order to drive the point, but their fundamental rejection of the principles of equal rights is no better, and their arguments against same-sex marriage are no more legally valid, nor will they be looked upon any more favourably by the next generations than we today look upon the arguments made by the racists in the '50s and '60s, namely because they're the exact same arguments.

Update:

This is sort of a follow up to this question: "Opposition to same-sex marriage on religious grounds?":

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=201109...

Also, in response to those who claim that, because nothing is stopping a gay man from marrying a gay woman, gays currently *do* have the same marriage rights as straights, or those who object to same-sex marriage on the basis of the terminology itself, I strongly urge you, respectively, to read the following two links (and, while we're here, I may as well include my article regarding my opposition to the term "gay marriage", although it's slightly off-topic):

"Same-Sex Marriage is NOT a Gay-Rights Issue":

https://sites.google.com/site/alexisbrookex/same-s...

"Civil Unions: A Bad Idea":

https://sites.google.com/site/alexisbrookex/civil-...

"Movement To End "Gay Marriage"":

https://sites.google.com/site/alexisbrookex/moveme...

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  • 10 years ago
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    Either everyone has the right to marry the person they love or no one does. That is equality.

    Some people would like to remove Fraternity and Equality from the three founding ideals of America:

    Liberty, Fraternity and Equality. Those people are un-American.

  • If you want to be religious and bigoted thats fine, but interrupting others lives because you don't like what they do is where the problem occurs. If your convinced they will go to hell because of your religious beliefs than whats the problem? They suffer after death and you have the choice not to let it in your life. Why does it bother you what anyone else does if you can choose not to have it in YOUR life?

    I personally could care less on who marries who or what race anyone is even though it is only natural to acknowledge it. I am spiritual without the religion so I don't abide by those rules but I understand other people do and their racism or gay wouldn't bother me unless it was an attack.

    Just let people do what they want to do with their lives and mind your business. Im saying that respectfully as advice.

  • 10 years ago

    If a person was capable of "an intellectually honest position", then that person really wouldn't be capable of holding such flat-out stupidly bigoted views.

    I'm anti-marriage, on a personal level, because I find swearing life-long undying love for someone to be a slightly unrealistic promise to make, but I don't really care what other people do with their lives.

  • ?
    Lv 5
    10 years ago

    God hates divorce. The Bible is clear on the matter. There are two instances where divorce is accepted but that's it.

    Look, you're obvioulsy going to rebel no matter what so just understand that you're not going to convince a Christian to accept homosexuality. Even if the person had personal opinions on the matter, if they held to the Bible the decision on the matter has already been made. The Christian will either conform to God's ways or do their own thing kinda like yourself.

    We all have a choice and this life is where we make the one that will affect us forever. Do what seems best to you but just know that neither you, me, Johnny Cochrin, or the best lawyer in the world will be able to convince God to change His mind when He has already spoken on the matter.

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  • Anonymous
    10 years ago

    Currently, marriage is a right held by the states under the 10th amendment. It shouldn't be a governmental issue at all. But if it is, most of America will fight for marriage between one man and one woman.

    36 states currently have constitutional amendments stating its between one man and one woman. If it becomes a federal issue, you can assume the same.

  • Cindi
    Lv 5
    10 years ago

    Wall of Text = 42

    * write a blog.

  • Anonymous
    10 years ago

    Why you Rosie O'Donnell looking...

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