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Christians, question about the Trinity...?

Now, the Trinity is God which consists of God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, correct? Before Christ was born was God still the trinity, or was He a two-in-one being. Also, what happened to Christ's body after He ascended to Heaven?

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edit: I'm getting conflicting answers here. Some say there are three distincts persons in a godhead, others say they are three distinct persons in the trinity. Are they ever one entity, embodied within one "person?" Someone in the New Testament had a vision of seeing Christ standing next to God. Not one God. How can they be three separate persons, individuals, and also the same "person."

As for the man that said he is a father and a son, but one person, you can never claim to be your own father or your own son.

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  • Anonymous
    9 years ago
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    The eternal, uncreated Word of God is the Son of God who became the baby born to Mary. The Word was with God in the beginning (as was the Holy Spirit - Genesis 1:2), and the Word was God (John 1:1).

    The one Being of God has always been triune. If there were not three Persons subsisting in the Godhead, there could have been no Father until there was another. But God is the eternal Father, just as Christ is the eternal Son - the terms describe something of the relationship between those two Persons, not that one procreated another! Our English words don't do justice to the Greek words used in the Bible when it speaks of this relationship. There was no starting point in time with either the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit.

    Christ's body was resurrected to become a glorified body that still had the wounds in the feet, hands and side. That's shown when Jesus appeared before doubting Thomas, and after Thomas realised Jesus was resurrected, bodily, he exclaimed, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus did not rebuke him. Jesus accepted that adoration. That resurrection body was seen by some 500 people rising up into the clouds where Jesus disappeared from their sight and two angels then told them that as they'd seen Jesus go back to heaven, so he would return to earth - bodily - visibly.

    Edit - To clear up the confusion you mention; the Godhead is the Trinity. They're just different words to speak of the wholeness of God - God in his entirety, if you will.

    There was no time when God was without the Son and the Holy Spirit. You cannot have the Godhead with any of the three 'persons' missing. But 'persons' is only the best word we have in English to equate with the Greek words used in the Bible. It's a mistake to think of human persons such as you and I, for instance, being together to form a unity of two persons - distinct yet joined. That cannot work with human persons.

    God is Spirit, the Bible says, but the Word of God spoke everything into creation (cf Genesis 1 with John 1) and the Holy Spirit was equally the agent of creation. All three created everything yet there are not three Creators!

    Yes, Jesus is depicted as sitting by the Father's side on heaven's throne; he's also depicted as standing by that throne and he's further described as being in the centre of that throne. See Revelation 5:12-15. The Holy Spirit is also beyond our mental grasp as to activity and presence. He indwells every believer. Yet he's also surrounding the throne of God.

    But please don't make the mistake of saying "How can they be three separate persons, individuals, and also the same person"! The Trinity expressly states that the three persons form one Being, not three persons! They share the same Being, not the same person! And it's just as clear that the Father is not the Son, or vice versa.

    You are trying to delve into the deepest theological subject there ever has been or ever will be. Words are not sufficient but they are all we have and the Bible is clear that to worship the Son is to worship the Father, yet we are not worshipping two Gods! Jesus said "that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him" (John 5:23). Start with the person of Jesus because he came to reveal the Father to us. Get a sense of the wonder of just who Jesus is and why he had to die on the cross for our sins and then - and only then - will you be able to make progress with this subject of the triune nature of the one Being of God.

  • 9 years ago

    actually you don’t find the phrase Trinity so to speak in the Bible – but the doctrine of the Godhead, where Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, you can find three distinct Individuals outlined in the Bible.

    And there are so many references to it: not only Matthew 28:19 that I just quoted, but if you go to 2nd Corinthians 13, verses 13 and 14, he says, in his conclusion he says, ‘All of the saints salute you. [Notice] The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, [that would be the Father] and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you all.’ So there you have another example of those three Entities that the Bible speaks of.

    The three Persons of the Godhead – you know when Jesus was baptized is a good example where you can see they’re three separate Entities. Christ, God the son, comes out of the water at His baptism. The Voice of God the Father says, “This is My Beloved Son….” Incidentally, this is Matthew chapter 3. Then the Holy Spirit descends in the Form of a Dove. So you’ve got three distinct Persons that are making up God.

    First John 5:7 says, ‘…for there are Three that bear record in Heaven [there’s three, very simple]. The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.’ Now some people get confused and they say, ‘ “these three are one? How can They be three in one?” ’ All you’ve got to do is remember that in the Hebrew mind, one meant unity.

    Jesus said a man leaves his father and mother, cleaves unto his wife, they become one flesh. Well they’re two in reality. We know they’re two separate, distinct persons. They’re now one unit of a family. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are united in their purpose of creation, of redemption, and saving man.

    You know there in Genesis, it tells us God said, “Let Us make man in Our Image.” And later when man sinned, God said, “man has become like Us [plural].” So you find all the way from Genesis to Revelation the teaching of God being a Triune God. The Angels say, “Holy, Holy, Holy” for each member of the Godhead there in Isaiah chapter 6.

    So that’s just a brief summary of some of the Scriptures that teach us about the three Persons in the Godhead, ok?

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  • 9 years ago

    Jesus has always existed, God has been always Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, after Jesus Christ resurrected, He ascended to Heaven with a glorified body...

    John 1:

    {1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was

    with God, and the Word was God. {1:2} The same was in

    the beginning with God. {1:3} All things were made by

    him; and without him was not any thing made that was

    made. {1:4} In him was life; and the life was the light of

    men. {1:5} And the light shineth in darkness; and the

    darkness comprehended it not.

  • 9 years ago

    Yes the Trinity is eternal. The Bible describes, in Genesis 1, how the Spirit hovered over the face of the waters. Jesus later tells us that no one has seen the Father. Yet Moses ,Arron ,and others saw God. Is this a contradiction? No, what they witnessed was the preincarnate (i.e. before Jesus took a human form) Jesus. After Jesus resurrected from the dead He remained in His body. Otherwise how could Thomas have touched His would or ny part of Him for that matter? However this was no ordinary body this was His glorified body, still His mind you but able to exist eternally. So when He ascended He did so in His body.

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

    Christ was incarnated as a human being at a specific time in history, but he existed as part of the Godhead before that.

    John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    A bit further one, John 1:14 makes clear that this is a reference to Christ: "And the Word became flesh and lived among us..."

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, God was always a Trinity of Persons -- and still is!

    Genesis tells us that

    in the beginning was God

    God spoke -- therefore His Words had life

    The Spirit hovered

    The Father is not the Son nor the Spirit

    The Son is not the Father nor the Spirit

    The Spirit is not the Father nor the Son

    Christ's glorifed body -- which we will all have one day -- is in Heaven...

    So...why did Jesus pray to the Father if he himself was/is God? Jesus took on our human nature and in that humanity he prayed to show us how to pray. But not just to demonstrate to us but he had real human needs: He cried, he laughed, he slept, he learned, he ate.

  • THE CORRECT ANSWER:

    AT JOHN 1:1 the King James Version reads: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Trinitarians claim that this means that "the Word" (Greek, ho lo'gos) who came to earth as Jesus Christ was Almighty God himself.

    John 1:1 highlights the quality of the Word, that he was "divine," "godlike," "a god," but not Almighty God. This harmonizes with the rest of the Bible, which shows that Jesus, here called "the Word" in his role as God's Spokesman, was an obedient subordinate sent to earth by his Superior, Almighty God.

    Note, however, that here again the context lays the groundwork for accurate understanding.

    EVEN THE KING JAMES VERSION says, "The Word was with God." (Italics ours.) Someone who is "with" another person cannot be the same as that other person. In agreement with this, the Journal of Biblical Literature, edited by Jesuit Joseph A. Fitzmyer, notes that if the latter part of John 1:1 were interpreted to mean "the" God, this "would then contradict the preceding clause," which says that the Word was with God.

    When Jesus was baptized, God, Jesus, and the holy spirit were also mentioned in the same context. Jesus "saw descending like a dove God's spirit coming upon him." (Matthew 3:16) This, however, does not say that the three are one. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are mentioned together numerous times, but that does not make them one. Peter, James, and John are named together, but that does not make them one either. Furthermore, God's spirit descended upon Jesus at his baptism, showing that Jesus was not anointed by spirit until that time. This being so, how could he be part of a Trinity where he had always been one with the holy spirit?

    Another reference that speaks of the three together is found in some older Bible translations at 1 John 5:7. Scholars acknowledge, however, that these words were not originally in the Bible but were added much later. Most modern translations rightly omit this spurious verse.

    EVEN Jesus himself didn't agree that he was equal to God, as the doctrine of the trinity states.

    Proof of this is found in Philippians 2: 5,6: "Keep this mental attitude in YOU that was also in Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God."

    The Trinity is made up.

    "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. . . . Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective."—New Catholic Encyclopedia.

    Source(s): LOGIC. THE BIBLE. www.watchtower.org LOGIC.
  • 9 years ago

    I'm a father a son and a brother 3 things one guy I'm a trinity. If jesus was God who was he praying to in the bible

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  • 9 years ago

    God has two sides male and female, the female side of God is the spirit or Shekinah. The Shekinah dwells in the spirit of a pure sole, that was Mary mother of Yeshuah, who became the temple of the spirit of the Lord, that was born of flesh, the Messiah Yeshuah, who was from the beginning, as time is not relevant for God. The Messiah knew no sin, his flesh would not corrupt, the spirit did not leave the tomb, even though the body died, like the caterpillar changing into a butterfly, one body, but different. Yashuah rose from the grave, the same, but changed, in that the flesh was changing, like those who believe in him, at the twinkling of the eye, we will be changed.

  • 9 years ago

    Be sure to get a bible answer other wise it is just what someone thinks.

    (Colossians 1:14-20) 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens.

    15 says Jesus was created, the almighty has always been here.

    (Acts 7:55) 55 But he, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand,

    (Revelation 1:1) 1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,

    So this was a revelation God gave to Jesus so there had to be two people.

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