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Isnt the national debt something we can all agree on?
16 trillion dollars in debt, and nobody has a solid way out, except for Ron Paul. What makes people think we can just keep borrowing money and everything will be just dandy? Bush AND Obama, and so on and so forth, have contributed to this factor. There will be a point in time, where we WONT be able to afford the interest on the debt, so what would happen then? We lost our triple A credit rating, and its likely to go down again as long as we continue the habits we have today. So this is what I want to ask everybody. Why not Ron Paul? Why are people praising Obama or anybody for that matter, that doesnt seem to understand this fact? Why is there little concern over this? Why is this pushed to the side and not taken into consideration as a major issue? Does anybody actually have a plan, or know what should be cut if you dont agree with Ron Paul?
@Rolando: Elaborate. Give me some real numbers and programs, wasteful spending etc, that you would cut to have us living within our means
@Ry: You cant live within your means with a government that spends more then it makes. You HAVE to cut the government in order to save money. Spending is necessary, and I agree. But it has to be spent on all the right things. The government spends money wastefully on things that they deem is necessary. When the people spend the money, they make economic descisions. This was proved as an excellent way to stimulate the economy after WWII. They lowered taxes, and the economy rose dramatically. Obama got us on a good track, but he's still not doing anything to reduce the deficit. Its been massive increases in the deficit. It has to stop somewhere
@nicholas J: I have. If you look at it, theres actually not going to be enough tax revenue by about 2025 if we increase the debt by about 2.5 trillion a year. What happens then, is the fed has to raise taxes in order to pay off the interest. Eventually, the american public wont be able to afford it. No president can get us out of a complete meltdown where the dollar isnt even worth wiping your own a** with it
@thesolution: Well...damn. lol
@the solution: It was a "Well damn" nice one! But that would mean taking more then half of the american populace income. That would ruin the economy. Im glad to see some actually intellegent people on here I can actually have a good conversation with. Ry included
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- The SolutionLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
How's this for a "Solid Way Out?"
To break Even on Mr. Obama's Proposed FY 2013 Budget we'd have to do the Following:
Increase Personal Income Tax, Corporate Tax and Capital Tax Revenues by 50% on every Man, Woman, Corporation and Investor in AMERICA.
Cut Spending on Welfare, Defense, Medicaid, Social Security Retirement, Medicare and Education by 20% each.
Those are the 2 steps that would be Required to have a NULL Balance for FY 2013.
We'd have to RAISE Taxes even More, and Increase CUTS even More to start Paying DOWN the $16.2 Trillion we are already in Debt.
EDIT: was that a good "Well, D***, nice one!" or a "Well, D***, another Conservative with No Plan or Numbers, just Rhetoric?" lol
@ Ry Guy: Yep, Conservatives will not go for it, nor would Liberals.. But a few MODERATE Republicans and Democrats who ACTUALLY are Representative of the Bulk of Americans could do it. Unfortunately, the Repubs think we have to Combat a Radical Liberal/Progressive with just a Radical Conservative/Religious Right Winger, and all that does is FURTHER Divide us along our Poles. Oh, and I have to point out that YES, during Mr. Clinton's years we had a Surplus, but that was with 6 years of House and Senate Control by Republicans. Mr. Obama did virtually Nothing to Eliminate Loopholes and Unfair Credits and Deductions, NOR did he do anything about Waste in Social Programs and Defense in the TWO Years, he had the support of BOTH Houses. I have little HOPE of Moderate Solutions to our troubles, or in the Next 4 under Mr. Obama. Same can be said for a "Conservative" Choice either. Thanks for your interest, it is obvious that although we may differ on some points, be are both after The Solution.
Last EDIT, sorry, they said "No Increase in Taxes without Compensatory Attempts to Decrease Spending on Social Programs." That part I tend to agree with. We have to be Responsible in our Spending and show a willingness to Take a Bit of Pain, as well as Play Through the Pain of Paying a bit More or their is no FIX to the Situation.
- 5 years ago
Clinton in no way created a real surplus, it replaced right into a projected surplus. It replaced right into a "what if" state of affairs the place each little thing only worked out, I.E. no dot com bust and no housing bust. you already know that 2 trillion that have been given "lost" interior the financial crash? That replaced into Clinton's surplus.... we've a extensive debt, their are 2 a thank you to deal with this: attempt to pay it off quicker by accumulating greater tax revenues improve the economy so as that over the years the dimensions of the debt will become much less of an argument. The Republican tactic is plan B, improve the dimensions of the economy. you will no longer improve an economy by raising taxes or increasing rules. Assuming that for the duration of a few unspecified time interior the destiny in time interior the destiny the debt is payed off, i could incredibly united statesa. had a good larger economy that replaced into greater able than a smaller one that had a a thank you to circulate.
- ??Lv 69 years ago
Look Obama wants to cut the deficit, but you can't get the economy going without putting money into it. The only way to put money into it is to spend or cut taxes, which raise the deficit.
The economy is turning around, Obama will get the debt turned around in his second term. Remmeber the balanced budget under Clinton?
he was a dem
I trust obama with that more than any republicans
edit-I agree, you have to cut spending, but you ALSO have to raise taxes. It can't be one or the other, it has to be BOTH. most of the republicans in office signed a no tax pledge saying they wont' raise taxes no matter what.
Its gotta be both, not just one or the other. And many dems, INCLUDING OBAMA said he would be willing to cut entitlements as long as there are tax increases. It should be both agree?
Proof Obama is for both raised taxes and cut gov spending:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/us/politics/obam...
That has always been obama's plan ^^^ The reason nothing got done last year was because of the Radical tea partiers on the right last september who wouldn't negotiate at all. The tea party wanted all cuts in spending, but if they really cared about the country they would have negotiated and got a deal done which includes both tax increases and cuts in gov spending. But they figured that if America fails then Obama fails. So they didn't negotiate at all. Thus no deal got done.
Obama has tried though.
@ the solution, that would work, but Republicans would NEVER go along with it. Why? Cause they said "absolutely no increase in taxes".
edit:this explains the tax pledge right here:
- Nicholas JLv 79 years ago
Once you take into account state revenue, national resources and trillions of dollars in securities, the national debt is small relative to the major investment firms. Of course they call their debt "leverage". That's why the t-bond is a more conservative financial instrument.
For one who is so concerned with the debt - have you ever stopped to add up how much revenue the US generates and estimated it's total asset worth? Then compared that to the debt of a homeowner that takes out a mortgage...? Give it an honest try sometime. You will be shocked by how mundane this issue actually is.
And if we are going to talk Presidents, every Democrat in the last 60 years has left office with a balanced budget. Every Republican has left with record setting debt and skyrocketing deficit. It all started with Nixon.
I like a Ron Paul a lot too. But the debt issue is overblown when you think of it in terms of decades.
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- 9 years ago
Sure.
We can agree not to demagog it, just the way we agreed on that when President Ronald Retard skyrocketed the debt.
As for Ron, the con man, Paul, he's got enough skeletons in his closet to start an avalanche.
Source(s): "the newsletters [published by Ron Paul] contained dozens of statements marked by bigotry and conspiratorial thinking" The New Republic mag: http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/99666/ron-paul... - Anonymous9 years ago
Simple solution, cut wasteful spending that doesn't help people and raise taxes.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Ron Paul would have ZERO delegates if some states didn't give them proportionally! he's irrelevant!
- The Shadow KnowsLv 69 years ago
the only thing I will agree with is we have one, and it is big, and until we get more revenue it will continue to get bigger
- Anonymous9 years ago
No. You can't eliminate the fed and plunge us into pre-great depression chaos. Sorry.