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Are there Christian sects believing Jesus is not God?
Does the Eastern Orthodox Church believe that Jesus is just a fully evolved person rather than God? What about the Egyptian Coptics?
Some of your answers are very educational. I certainly agree that nothing in the Bible suggests that Jesus IS God or that no ordinary person could achieve his level of development. My reading of the Bible is that Jesus is an example of what each of us could become. I wonder how the idea of "Jesus is God" or is the "Son of God" (differently from each of us being children of God) came into being.
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- ShahzadaLv 49 years agoFavorite Answer
According to "Jehovah's Witnesses Official Web Site"
Not a Plural God
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JESUS called God "the only true God." (John 17:3) Never did he refer to God as a deity of plural persons. That is why nowhere in the Bible is anyone but Jehovah called Almighty. Otherwise, it voids the meaning of the word "almighty." Neither Jesus nor the holy spirit is ever called that, for Jehovah alone is supreme. At Genesis 17:1 he declares: "I am God Almighty." And Exodus 18:11 says: "Jehovah is greater than all the other gods."
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Jesus, no more and no less than a perfect human, became a ransom that compensated exactly for what Adam lost—the right to perfect human life on earth. So Jesus could rightly be called "the last Adam" by the apostle Paul, who said in the same context: "Just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive." (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45) The perfect human life of Jesus was the "corresponding ransom" required by divine justice—no more, no less. A basic principle even of human justice is that the price paid should fit the wrong committed.
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If Jesus, however, were part of a Godhead, the ransom price would have been infinitely higher than what God's own Law required. (Exodus 21:23-25; Leviticus 24:19-21) It was only a perfect human, Adam, who sinned in Eden, not God. So the ransom, to be truly in line with God's justice, had to be strictly an equivalent—a perfect human, "the last Adam." Thus, when God sent Jesus to earth as the ransom, he made Jesus to be what would satisfy justice, not an incarnation, not a god-man, but a perfect man, "lower than angels." (Hebrews 2:9; compare Psalm 8:5, 6.) How could any part of an almighty Godhead—Father, Son, or holy spirit—ever be lower than angels?
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Was Jesus Considered to Be God?
WHILE Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. Even the demons, who "believe there is one God," knew from their experience in the spirit realm that Jesus was not God. So, correctly, they addressed Jesus as the separate "Son of God." (James 2:19; Matthew 8:29)
Hence, the phrase "Son of God" refers to Jesus as a separate created being, not as part of a Trinity. As the Son of God, he could not be God himself, for John 1:18 says: "No one has ever seen God."—RS, Catholic edition.
The Bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jehovah God alone is Almighty. He created the prehuman Jesus directly. Thus, Jesus had a beginning and could never be coequal with God in power or eternity.
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- 9 years ago
As a Jehovah's Witness I believe the bible , so yes as a Christian I do not believe Jesus to be God almighty.
- santanaLv 45 years ago
The second any one mentions "actual Christians" all arguments are misplaced and the fighting starts. There are such a large amount of versions of Christianity Worshipping the phrase of God the will of God Mary the mother mom and youngster (Jesus and mom Mary) mother and baby ( child and Mary Magdalene) Mary Magdalene the Crown of thorns the Spear of destiny the pass The Shroud Jesus the Trinity The Bloodline of Jesus Worship of the Miracles The Brotherhood of the Lamb. And Dozens of others.. That is even before we attain the cutting-edge era where things got fairly bloody and messy
- edoedoLv 79 years ago
Yes it is true that Jesus is not God , how did I know that? I read the Bible.
All Jehovah's Witnesses will say the same thing.
I don't believe in trinity at all.
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- Anonymous9 years ago
Some Rosicrucians hold that Jesus was not god made flesh, but rather flesh that became god; saying that all humans are capable of becoming a part of god. Not quite the same as not believing Jesus is god, but still an interesting distinction.
- OPsaltisLv 79 years ago
The Eastern Orthodox (Greek, Russian, etc.) and the so-called "Oriental Orthodox" (Coptic, Armenian, etc.) are Trinitarian, and fully subscribe to the Nicene Creed, as they were present at its creation. The creed emphasizes the belief in the Holy Trinity - God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
"...And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of
God, begotten of the Father before all ages;
Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten,
not created, of one essence with the Father
through Whom all things were made.
Who for us men and for our salvation
came down from heaven and was incarnate
of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man..." [1]
"...We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only-Begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten not created, of one essence with the Father, by whom all things were made; Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy spirit and the Virgin Mary and became Man..." [2]
The Copts separated in part about the particulars of the incarnation and the nature of Christ after the incarnation. The divinity of Christ is not in question.
There are other Christians farther east -- Church of the East -- that subscribe to the teachings of Nestorius, and their view of the divinity of Christ is different. There are some modern fringe groups who unknowingly have taken up Nestorian and Arian heresies, and deny the divinity of Christ. JW most notable.
Blessings.
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About Orthodox Christianity: http://www.goarch.org/ourfaith/introduction
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Source(s): [1] http://www.goarch.org/chapel/liturgical_texts/cree... Nicene Creed from Greek Orthodox Archdiocese [2] http://nacopts.org/index.php?option=com_content&vi... Coptic Arch. - Q&A QueenLv 79 years ago
Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus is a separate and distinct being from God... A CREATION of his father Jehovah. This is based on many scriptures, but of note are Jesus' own words at John 3:16 where he refers to HIMSELF as the only BEGOTTEN (which means produced/created) son of God.
- nevitLv 49 years ago
I would be interested in your pointing out to me one single scripture where Jesus says, or even implies, that he is God.
To be a "Christian" one must follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Following means not only believing, but doing what Jesus told his followers to do and conduct oneself the way Jesus would conduct himself in any given situation.
That sort of narrows it down a bit doesn't it.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Are there christian sects that are delusional? YES YES AND YES! No gods or devils exist anywhere outside of any ones properly inculcated mind! The only truth since the bile says you need a (pretend fake) belief of faith on your part to believe any gods or devils are even believable! Brainwashing gives you that "pretend fake belief of faith", not any man made up religious "truth's"!!!