Is feminism really about complete equal rights, or just certain privileges?

“I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”

—From Robin Morgan, "Theory and Practice: Pornography and Rape" in "Going too Far," 1974.

“Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies.”

—Andrea Dworkin

“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it.”

—Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan

“Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck – and if you get in my way I'll run you down.”

—Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia. (Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia - 9 February 1996)

Those quotes should tell you what feminism is really about.

That doesn't contradict what feminism is, that IS what feminism has always been about.

Also, men don't get paid more than women for equivalent work, but there are many young women who get paid much more than they are worth at the expense and discrimination against superior young men.

The wage gap is a lesbian myth meant to get women jobs that they could not attain though their own merit and work. What they seek is Communism, and Communism is a failed philosophy that has caused the murder of 100 million people. Why do lesbians seek to force a failed economic model on us still?

Equal rights does not mean equal outcome regardless of factors such as work experience, innate ability, skill, training, and talent.

Equal rights also does not mean insane, undeserved privileges accompanying rights and having none of the responsibilities or duties that are inherent in the definition of a right. Feminism is about totalitarianism, destruction, oppression, persecution, and scapegoating of a particular class of people. So not only is feminism Communism with the groups and nomenclature changed, but it is on top of that, Fascist in nature as well.

I agree with you that I really am for equal rights in any area, and I as well do think that feminism really ruins it for girls. Feminism, at first, did improve equal rights, but it has no become far too radical to the point not many people take it seriously - not even our target, men. It's like the suffragettes: because of their rash ways, they were made a mockery of, while the more peaceful suffragists were left alone in their protests. Radical (suffragettes) and liberal (suffragists) is the way I classify feminists. Liberals I can tolerate, but not radicals.

What's more, modern feminism is trying to improve equality by making one gender more equal than the other, which creates double standards for men. An example of this sort of double standards created by feminism is that everyone turns a blind eye when a man is raped by a woman, but when a woman is raped suddenly it's a big problem! People will say that it's a big problem because the woman is physically weaker. Bs, in my opinion: rape is sex with out consent from one party. A woman can drug a man, tie him to the bed, and then rape him. It. Can. Happen. But because of feminism, it's practically become a thought to laugh at because it's so "unrealistic".

Feminism just gets me angry, and don't get me started on how it's making the majority of women a laughing stock because women aren't allowed to be feminine.

I agree with your statement. There was an article on MSN recently about a civil suit against the government. A feminist group was lobbying for women to be admitted to combat positions in the military. I say let them do it BUT, make those women meet the men's physical fitness requirements for combat. They should also have to shave their heads in order to maintain uniformity. I honestly think that many of these feminists do not know how well they have it. I find it offensive for them to assume that our accomplishments are due to the fact that we are male and have nothing to do with our hard work and conviction.

Just about any group has those members that take things too far and no group wants the bad things that everyone else gets. That is just human nature to want all the benefits but none of the drawbacks.

Let me put it this way Feminism is the idea of achieving equal rights for both sexes by looking at the issues of only one of them. They are just trying to get the rights, not the rest.

Feminism's main goal was to get all women out of the house and into the workforce and make men obsolete within the family by making the government the main breadwinner and letting the government raise the children. Feminists do want women drafted and hate chivalry in a man because they think we are not full citizens unless we become little male clones.

No, I do not want "equality" and there are many reasons for this ladies (and men too). Becoming equal with men meant that women could now be legally forced to bear the burdens that men traditionally carried. The law should respect differences between the sexes, particularly within the family. Phyllis Schlafly has a book called "feminist fantasies" that recounts the battle she fought against radical equality. Among other things, she writes: "In Illinois, as a result of agitation by "equal rights" fanatics, the real estate dower laws were repealed as of January 1, 1972. This means that in Illinois a husband can now sell the family home, spend the money on his girlfriend or gamble it away, and his faithful wife of thirty years cannot stop him. "Equal rights" fanatics have also deprived women in Illinois an in some other states of most of their basic common-law rights to recover damages for breach of promise to marry, seduction, criminal conversation, and alienation of affections."

"Ginsburg was vehement in her desire to abolish any legal preference or protection that women might have"

"Before the feminist movement burst on the scene in the 1970s, there were literally hundreds of laws that gave advantages or protections to women based on society's commonsense recognition of the facts of life and human nature. These included the prohibition against statutory rape, the Mann act, the obligation of the husband to support his wife and provide her with a home, special protections for widows...and laws that made it a misdemeanor to use obscene or profane language in the presence of a woman"

"The feminist quest for female fungibility with males has led the women's movement to support the invalidation of laws benefitting and protecting women. This was the thrust, for example, of litigation directed by Ruth Bader Ginsburg when she was director of the Women's Rights Project of the American Civil Liberties Union and , often using male plaintiffs, secured invalidation of laws that favored women. The theory was that obliteration of all legal sex distinctions would ultimately be in the best interests of working women; those women, including homemakers, who wished to retain the benefits of protective legislation were never the women with whose rights the Project was concerned. In the area of divorce reform, one of the benefits women have lost is the maternal preference which favored awarding custody to the mother. Almost all states now grant men and women a statutory equal right in custody. While mothers still gain custody in the vast majority of cases, loss of the maternal preference has seriously affected the bargaining process. "

"No longer concentrating on the oppressiveness of home and family for women, feminsist argue instead that, unfortunately, arried mothers must remain in the work force to protect themselves from the very likely possibility of becoming single-parents impoverished by divorce. This is a likelihood, they choose not to remember, their movement was highly instrumental in creating."

Feminism has claimed credit for the things that were already granted as rights to women (such as birth control, equal pay and even the right to vote!) before the heat of the women's lib in the 1970s. Since the Equal Rights Amendment failed, liberals have turned to the 14th amendment to say that women should be equally responsible for traditional male burdens such as the draft and paying alimony and all family law should be gender neutral with women forced to bear the burdens of men. With no fault divorces and abolition of the Tender Years doctrine many women are now forced to bear the burdens of men and men have a powerful weapon to use against our daughters.

I think you're right. Women want equal rights, but still want a heroic man who will buy them stuff all the time, and will pay on dates. I think it's hypocritical, but because we're still not quite equal, we can still get away with this double-standard… for now.

Most of them wouldn't do that. There are a few militant ones out there that are anti traditional values but most are about women having a choice, they arent anti anything.

You should be scared of the anti- feminists. they are all about chainning you to the kitchen to make them sandwiches. Thats all they eat too. its really feaky. LOL!

feminism is ALL about privileges