If morality is subjective...?

Good and evil intentions do not always result in good or evil outcomes. Pleasure is not always the reward of good behavior. More often than not pleasure is the result of bad behavior.

Likewise, morality is completely subjective. Good and evil are not absolutes they are only measurements and as such are arbitrary. There are no standard units of evil.

People are not good or evil or kind or mean, but we measure their actions as such depending on the effect their behavior has on others. A person can be physically violent and abusive to a child, partner or spouse and still love them very much. How? They could be bipolar, manic depressive, or victims of abuse themselves.

Labels rarely tell the whole story because people we call "monsters" have no reflection. No one can see the ugliness within themselves unless they borrow someone else's eyes.

Hedonism is an excellent principle without a foundation.

Then it can be argued that we don't need foundations, principles aren't houses, etc.

Maybe it goes back to King Solomon talking about fire and brimstone while his son David had sex with all the women in Israel. Maybe not everyone's heard this story. David took turns playing the Devil, and evidently there were subjective things involved, or the age-old parable re-told in Conan appeared, in which everything goes old, and none of the jewels can stay---

That's the typical answer: we won't enjoy being old. Or something like that.

Some other answers are the following:

1. Philosophical or mystical virtue, such as "I enjoy toast and jam, it's enough for me" these can border on the irrational

2. The "what ifs" may occur even in subjective morality---a good point

3. Perhaps pleasure seems like too easy an answer: someone might be influenced by the statements "nothing is worth it that isn't worth the work", "a good day's work" or "work for a living"; these may boil down to quotidian opinions. But even if there aren't what ifs, there is the illusion or prospect of entertaining oneself with the company of other people, who aren't willing to have sex.

4. Maybe no one seems available---perhaps that indicates some flaw in the program.

If morality is subjective...?

why not simply become a hedonist?

~~~ Of course 'morality' is subjective!

No one just 'becomes' who you are not!

You have no choice but to act in accord with your nature, according to who and what you are.

Hedonists are hedonists, pacifists are pacifists, healers, healers, douches remain douches, no matter how much they/we might 'want' to be otherwise... at any particular moment. We can be one at one moment and another in another moment. Labels flicker by like a pickett fence...

You seem to have a 'religious' scent, so, if so, the following might be of interest, at least food for thought;

From a religious Perspective (and a dictionary), 'morality' is judging people/stuff as 'good' or 'bad/evil'!

As a Xtian (or any other religion), we are warned against judging others;

"Judge not lest you be judged!"

Such is the sin of 'pride'!

'Pride' is the only sin (from which all others spring), yet the hypocrites flaunt their practices, joyfully, proudly, in the face of god!

You are told that;

"If you judge, judge with righteous judgment!"

And goes on to say that;

"None are righteous, no not one!"

How does asking that question give you pleasure? If not than it has nothing to do with hedonism and that just contradicts your logic of a subjective moralistic assumption. Never assume a position unless one is ready for it. You have just proven that subjective morality has nothing to do with hedonism - a flaw in your own argument.

But morality isn't subjective.

yes, OBVIOUSLY, jesus....