Why IWC always blaming wrestlers to ruining pro wrestling?+BQ?

You're correct in blaming the IWC for this. The vast majority of wrestling fans watch because it's entertaining and they enjoy watching the antics of the performers and they don't take the whole thing very seriously. They get into the spirit of booing the bad guys (and Cena) and cheering the good guys (and Cena), enjoying the silliness of the overblown melodramatic storylines and the ridiculous amounts of hype the WWE puts on everything. You really can't take this stuff too seriously or, like the IWC, you'll b*tch and moan and complain about everything.

The IWC as a whole (not EVERYBODY in the IWC is an Internet Whining Crybaby, though) likes to feel they are smarter than the average wrestling fan. After all, they get their information from dirt sheets, talk to each other like insiders, try to dazzle each other by using words and phrases the insiders use, laugh and sneer at people who just enjoy the shows as are they are intended, and rebelliously hate everything the WWE pushes.

The IWC hates whatever is popular with the mainstream audience, just like some contrary rebellious young teenager who believes he's "cool" for hating what's popular. That very thing is proven every time, every single time, the IWC finds somebody they think is "underrated" or "not used correctly" and they'll start supporting that wrestler by talking about him, putting him over in various forums, and constantly asking "why don't they push him?". Sometimes that works and the WWE will push that wrestler. What happens then? The IWC turns their backs on him and calls him "overrated", makes us some juvenile nicknames for him and calls him "superman". Why do they do that? Because that formerly "underrated" wrestler the WWE wasn't "using correctly" got the push the IWC wanted and he got popular, which means he's no longer THEIR underdog, he's now a mainstream favorite and the IWC hates what the mainstream likes. Doesn't make any sense, does it?

If you think about it, these IWC's act more like indy fans who don't like the WWE and don't watch it, than "real WWE fans". Indy fans who don't watch the WWE don't watch the WWE because they feel it's too commercialized, isn't what pro wrestling really is, and is more about selling T-shirts and bad movies than wrestling. They criticize the WWE for being dumbed-down and commercialized to appeal to the masses. And that's what those IWC's are doing, criticizing the WWE performers who appeal to the mainstream fans. I think they're really closet indy fans who would rather be watching indy promotions but are afraid to because A) they don't know anything about the indys or the indy wrestlers, and B) they'd feel out of the loop because they believe "everybody watches the WWE" and only internet nerds watch indys.

These IWC's only whine and complain about who's popular in the WWE, and getting the pushes, and that goes against everything THEY believe a "smart" fan is.

Me personally, I'll discuss, debate, and argue with anybody in the IWC. But I don't take them as seriously as they want to be taken. Close-minded people who just whine and complain all the time are tedious and boring. Vince and the WWE don't care about the IWC; it's just a few thousand fans who whine and complain about everything the WWE does; I wouldn't listen to them either if I were running the WWE. The IWC doesn't make or break stars in the WWE anyway; the millions of fans around the world do.

BQ: Yep. I've been in this section for over 6 years now and I see user after user swearing he/she will "never ever watch the WWE again. EVER!" over something the WWE did. But every one of them continue to watch the WWE and continue to whine and complain here. Empty hollow threats the WWE doesn't even know about, much less care about. There is no one make or break performer in the WWE who will cause fans to stop watching the WWE when he retires or leaves. Some people may claim that but they never follow through.

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Don't attempt to understand why the ICW will complain about everything the WWE will do; but will continue to watch it week after week. I'm telling you, you'll drive yourself crazy.. I know I have in the past. I can't understand how someone can watch a show week after week and just complain about everything they do! STOP WATCHING, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND MOVE ON! I'm a realist though, I know that these people are going to keep watching and complaining because that's what they do, it is just how they are. Nothing is going to make them happy.. I've seen it happen so many times where one member of the IWC will state that they will "never watch WWE again if ________ happens" BUT when that thing happens.. they'll be right here next week complaining about what happened that night on RAW.

I've seen that happen so many times, and I've also seen, particularly in this section.. people complaining about something like say, the Nexus.. but now that, that's old news.. I saw a question recently where people were complaining about the Shield and talking about how the Nexus was so cool. It made me laugh, since that's what always happens.. something sucks until it's old and nostalgic then it becomes cool and a reminiscent of the old days.. the "good old days'' and I'm just like wth.. the Nexus had a lot of potential and a good angle but the ball was dropped with them.. I didn't hate everything about the Nexus but I would have liked to see them succeed better.

But most people like to draw out every single negative.. I don't understand why but they do. So I've just given up on what they think. It annoys me when I see it in this section or on twitter but whatever, it's not my problem. I decided awhile back that I'm going to watch WWE and care about WWE like I did when I was a kid.. and the best way for me to do that was to watch it with my 4 year old nephew who doesn't care about the storyline or the progression of it, he cares about who the good guy is.. and who the bad guy is.. and it's so much better that way. When I complain about something, it's usually when the storyline is over and I can make an opinion on it as a whole.. because I don't know the whole story otherwise.

BQ: No.. I don't.. I think they will stop watching when they don't have the time anymore or have slowly lost interest completely.. I don't think they will stop watching the second CM Punk leaves.. because they will want to see the backlash of his departure.. etc. The thing with wrestling, and leaving the business for good.. is it doesn't really exist.. it's not like football or hockey, you can come back in ten years and still have something to do. And I understand that some people are tuning in because of The Rock and when he's gone they probably will go to.. I don't think those fans ever truly left.. I think they've just lost interest along the way as they got older.

I think there is a lot of jealousy when it comes to The Rock! The guy has not only been successful inside of the WWE and Wrestling industry, but also a huge success outside of wrestling, in Hollywood, maybe not all his movies was a big box office draw, but I don't think this guy has made one movie that went straight to DVD, He is a huge star and most of us will never have the kind of success he has! BQ: I don't think their egos are exactly alike, there is some similarities between the two, Cena wants to be at the top, there is no doubt in my mind about that, but I think Cena is a decent guy, He also has put over guys to management like Zack Ryder, he is friends with a lot of the WWE stars like Randy Orton and R-Truth, I'm not comfortable blaming Cena for anyone not getting a push, or anyone getting fired, because I'm just not completely convinced Cena has done anything wrong, I'm not backstage in WWE, so far me to speculate what is going on, I don't think is fair, people always blame others when they get fired, and blame others for not getting a push, Stars who get fired like Kenny could just be bitter and jealous, and I'll let people decide for themselves if that is the case or not!

I'd give you an answer man, but it'd only be third to what The Dragon and Geese provided. Truly outstanding answers from both of them.

BQ: Oh, totally. Every year there are a few users on this site who say that "they'll never watching wrestling again when The Undertaker retires! Seriously! Never!......I mean it!" and of course, that just isn't true. For the purposes of everyday discussion The Undertaker is essentially retired already. He wrestles one match a year.

My interest may wane a bit when my favorite current stars like Cena and Orton retire. The appeal of watching them is a big draw for me to keep tuning in every week. But at the same time I have confidence in the WWE and their ability to create and produce new stars who peak my interest. Ryback is a good example of that. So is Sheamus. They weren't even on my radar a few years ago and now I really enjoy them. I'm sure that's how it is for most people.

I just want to add what The Dragon had provided here.

I think the reason IWC blaming wrestlers is because the fact it was pro wrestlers who performed the script. They are the performers, so WWE Universe would blame them. WWE Universe would think they can't play their role/gimmick well and that caused Pro Wrestling got bad ratings. Some wrestlers might not have talents to play their role well, but a lot of wrestlers got undeserving bashing from IWC about their ability to play their gimmick. Also, IWC have tendency of accussing wrestlers of being selfish and not following what the boss told them to do.

Just take John Cena as the greatest example. Cena is the heart and soul of WWE since 2005. This man played his gimmick very well : a loveable, kind children superhero. He played a very good role model by never let people reactions and screwings turn your attitude into bad. Cena not just doing this as a gimmick, he also did this in real life. Cena never moaned and whined to Vince McMahon and begged Vince to turn him heel. Cena did what's the best for business and what Vince told him to do.

I just can't understand there's anyone who could possibly say John Cena ruins WWE. I know Cena might be boring sometimes, but Cena just followed the script. It wasn't Cena's fault that he got booked that way. It was Vince and the writers who booked him so. And if Cena was bad for WWE, then Vince would have stripped his Face of WWE status from him long time ago and replaced him with someone who can draw better. The fact Vince let Cena be Face of WWE for 8 years now proved that Cena is worthy of being that.

And about Cena turning heel. This is just complete crap from IWC. There's nobody in current WWE roster who can replace Cena as the number 1 babyface superhero for children. Just nobody. Cena turning heel would be completely the worst decision ever by WWE, just like Goldberg's and Sting's heel turn in WCW which never worked and never accepted.

About The Rock, some IWC might argue that a part time carry WWE Title. But, anyway, that's what the best for WWE. The Rock as WWE Champion draw a lot of attention and would be a great selling point for Wrestlemania 29. I'm sure it's WWE's decision to put the strap on Rock's waist, not Rock's own for ego purpose.

Another reason is IWC is just bandwagon who never satisfied with what WWE gave them. They think they are smarter than WWE writers and know who deserves the push. But, even if WWE pushes the wrestlers they want to push, not long after that, you could see IWC would start hate them after getting successful and wanted someone new to get pushed. The wheels would always keep turning like that.

BQ : Some yeah, but some not. But, I think most of them lying. But, I am not lying. Once The Undertaker retires, I'm done with WWE. The Undertaker is the sole reason why I still watch WWE. The fact he wrestles only once a year now makes me no longer enjoy watching WWE as much as I do when he wrestled part time in a year. After Wrestlemania 29, I will take a break from watching WWE and returns around Wrestlemania 30. Watching WWE is now becoming a burden to me since WWE keeps getting worse every year.

they keep complaining because wrestling used to literally be a 100 times better. and if they stop wrestling might actually get worse. at least because of all the complaining, the wwe is actually trying to minimize the BS they like to feed us since they don't need to worry about any competition anymore.

yes the wrestlers should not be blamed for the bad shows. it's the creative team that decides that john cena is the most important man alive and that the other titles, division and wrestlers are unimportant to build up anymore sinds john cena is still around and making money. i think the problem they have with these stars, is that they also have some creative power. john cena can refuse to win all the time. remember the breakfast club? triple h, randy orton and john cena. they can influence their own story lines any time they want.

john morrison gets great reactions, yet he was never pushed. otunga could get good reactions if they would put him in some actual storylines and he will probably do better as a face. with a manager of course cause he is not that good on a mic. look at how fast wwe recycled skip shefield into ryback. if they could do that for him, they can do it for anyone.

some people do keep watching. i always tought i would stop when kurt angle left. he was my favorite. but then i also liked shawn michaels, and when he left i would still watch because of orton. but i stopped watching for almost a year now i just check the results online. the show has truly become ridiculous. i used to get angry when i was younger and people wouldn't let me watch but now i could care less if i miss a show or not. besides it doesn't seem like i'm missing anything.

You are completely right, but the exact cause is unknown. However, there are wrestlers who has seriously messed up companies because of what they did (Take John Lauranaitis for example, Jim Cornette did not spare him during his shoot).

BQ: They're still going to watch it. If they survived the Muppets on RAW and The Miracle on 34th Street fight, then they will watch whatever the WWE puts on.

The never ending battle between the IWC, The WWE Universe, and the true pro-wrestling fans will continue, sadly.

IWC always complain for something. They always keep on b****ing and mourning about something. That's there nature.

John Cena, Hulk Hogan and The Rock have saved wrestling. Pro Wrestling is about charisma and entertainment. For an example i am never entertained by watching a 30 minute pure wrestling match between 2 unknown wrestlers containing 100 wrestling moves on an indy show. It bores the hell out of me. A 5 minute match between true big starts like Cena and Henry which tells a good story will entertain me more than that.

BQ - Yes they are more likely lying. When one star goes the door will open for another. I don't think anyone watches wrestling because of a single star.

For an example since Beth's departure only Eve was my favorite in Diva division. I hated the rest. I was so disappointing to see her leaving and thought of completely stop watching Diva matches. But recently I was impressed by couple of other divas.. Tamina and Layla keep my attention on the division. Not saying that they are perfect but they keep my interest.

For the past month, I tried getting myself back in the groove of watching professional wrestling so I decided to check out TNA Impact on Spike on Demand. The storyline was the Bully Ray Dudley & Brooke Hogan romance and subsequent wedding ceremony which, to nobody's surprise, turned out to be a trap as Tazz interrupted the ceremony and showed he was the newest member of Aces & Eights. And then all of the members of Aces & Eights sabotaged the ceremony and attacked Bully and Hulk Hogan. Where have I seen this before? Wasn't this wedding ceremony angle derived from Randy Savage & Miss Elizabeth "Match Made in Heaven" from Summer Slam 1991? Or Test & Stephanie McMahon's wedding ceremony on Monday Night Raw in 1999 where, as it turned out, Triple-H had drugged Stephanie and married her in a Las Vegas drive-thru Chapel a few days earlier? And let's not forget the Billy & Chuck commitment ceremony in 2002.

The bottom line is this: I could picture how the Bully & Brooke wedding ceremony was going to end, with a "shocking" surprise twist I can see coming a mile away. I didn't see any reason to watch it week after week because the product was just rehashing previous WWF wedding story-lines. But I didn't feel the need to constantly complain about Impact Wrestling. How is it conducive to complain week after week about a TV show but then continue to watch it anyway?

Direct TV offers hundreds of channels for a consumer to watch, if a wrestling fan doesn't like WWE, TNA, Hulk Hogan, What the Rock is Cooking, or John Cena, why not take a break from wrestling and watch other TV shows? Or why not evolve as a wrestling fan and check out other promotions? Dragon Gate USA offers its DVDs for $19.99 on amazon and ROH sells their DVDs cheaper, with prices ranging from $6.45-9.99. And they put their weekly TV shows online at rohwrestling.com and the ROH Youtube channel. If the IWC community doesn't like the current programming WWE or TNA is offering why not watch other wrestling promotions for a change of pace? Complaining about John Cena's "five moves" on Y!A isn't going to change Vince McMahon's mind about the content of his show because the Internet Wrestling Community is a very small contingent of fans that doesn't make up even 1% of his audience.

BQ: They are not telling the truth when they say will stop watching wrestling for good if their favorite wrestler retires. Wrestlers get old. Their bodies break down and eventually they have to know when to hang up the boots. For all intents and purposes, fans will be sad to see their favorite wrestler retire but they will not stop watching it altogether just because one wrestler retired. They'll go through the normal phase and stop watching wrestling shows for a couple of weeks but, once the sadness wears off, start watching it again.