If temperatures continue to rise, will you still be in denial of manmade global warming?

If temperatures rise in a reasonable response to Co2 levels I would have to reconsider my opinion.

what about you, if temperatures stop rising and start to fall will you change your opinion?

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This is based on the following:

Temperature in 1850, when everyone in this forum without exception admits we didn't know the temperature then

Temperatures being taken globally, when again everyone admits they haven't been ,not even now.

.75 of one degree in 163 years? Assuming this is even true how big a deal is that?

Where are the climate refugees?

Where are the disappearing islands?

Where is the coral dying off if left alone by Man, certainly not in any protected zone.

Yes, let's be precise, tell me what the temperature rise was on Thatcher Rock Torbay England between 1954 and 1987.

Or Thohoyandou, South Africa.

Or Martha's Beach, Falkland Islands.

"Let's be precise".

What's a "Natural Factor"?

Ha ha nice try but it's not the real world climate realists who say we aren't significantly warming, it's the pro warming official temperature measuring organisations around the world such as the UK met office who have had to grudgingly admit we aren't warming. And lets not forget the main University which collects this data, East Anglia Uni also having to admit no warming.

I'm sorry but I can't just pretend it's warming when it's not to suit your political crusade against carbon, which I must say is a pretty weird thing for a carbon based life form to do.

Then change your view. The temperature of the Earth has declined for over a decade now.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2...

Notice, there is no sleight of hand, the chart is using raw data and I stayed far away from 1998, which you greenies blame El Nino for messing up the stats.

>>if I understand AGW correctly, then temperatures HAVE to rise.<<

You do not understand correctly. Temperature has to rise over multidecadal periods Looking at global mean temperatures for a decade is like trying to study the trend in mean Spring (Match, April, May) temperature by only looking at average temperatures for one week in April.

It is obvious that Deniers will not accept anything less than their own deaths from climate change as evidence for climate change.

Contrary to their scientifically and mathematically illiterate claims to the contrary, global temperatures over the last 15 or so years are reason for more, not less, concern. Mean annual temperatures for the last 15 years have all fallen at the extreme upper limit of the probability density function for the documented historical record. In fact, more than just cluster near the extreme limit, they have moved it and redefined it at values greater than it has ever been.

If we could go back in time 15 years and wanted to calculate the likelihood that the next 15 years of temperature would all fall near or beyond the maximum limit of the population distribution, it would be less than the probability of flipping a coin and getting "heads" 15 times in a row - and that probability is: 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5

--- which is, approximately ---

p = 0.001; or 0.1%.

-- OR --

Based on the documented temperature record, there was a 99.9% chance that global temperatures for the last 15 years would be lower than they are.

Anyone who does not find that to be some reason for concern is in denial of reality. Deniers are called Deniers for good reason.

Continue? There has been no warming since 1998. There is nothing to continue, or deny.

The presence of warming would not prove that it is caused by man. You are selling a post hoc propter hoc fallacy. Correlation is not causation..

Dook has unwittingly demonstrated why climate science is an oxymoron:

<Denial of science is an addiction...simpleton trickery> ad hominem, petito principii

<U.S. National Academy of Sciences...> appeal to authority

After one snips out the abusive language and logical fallacies, there is literally nothing left. So it is across the movement. Global warming is not science; it is a religion.

Yes, I will still be in denial. If the temperature continues to go down, will you denial of global warming scam.

There continues to be no credible, unmanipulated, uncorrupted data that supports the notion of catastrophic, man-made, global warming or climate change or whatever the Warmers call it now.

BTW, What exactly is "normal" climate??

It depends on what the Sun was doing. It's the Sun that overwhelming drives temperature NOT CO2.

Here is why we've had a little warming over the last few decades: http://lasp.colorado.edu/lisird/tsi/historical_tsi...

Did you look? If you did, then you saw the reason for the warming and it's NOT human activity. It is in fact high SOLAR activity.

Watch these and you will understand --- that is IF you want to understand, most Warmists don't.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ

Global Warming Doomsday Called Off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr5O1HsTVgA&playnex...

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Iron Plague: If you want 'science facts' you are going to have to look at the cause of the warming on both Mars and Earth. You can;t just say "Mars and Earth are both warming therefor the causes are natural". Where is your head? I'll give you some beginning links to start on your knowledge journey.

Mars warming due to dust storm: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/07...

The above article came out after the article below with a title that does not explain the article itself.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/07...

Page 2 of the article above states that the scientist who believes as you do is against mainstream scientific opinion as the theories do not fit the data.

If you prefer peer reviewed literature:

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/uploads/File/People/mir...

http://sprg.ssl.berkeley.edu/adminstuff/webpubs/20...

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1992mars.book.1017K

now if you are stating that the same cause of warming on Mars is the cause of warming on Earth you're going to have to show and explain it a whole lot better than saying "Mars is warming therefor the cause of that warming is the same as the Earth"