To Michael, who answered ? .......?

Trinity is not taught nor MENTIONED in the scriptures! When I was a Baptist, I could never figure that one teaching out--but I became one of Jehovah's witnesses after studying the Bible and now I understand the trinity! I like these quotes below:

Religion? "the feelings, acts, and experiences of individual men in their solitude, so far as they apprehend themselves to stand in relation to whatever they may consider the divine" William James.

In Matt.chapter six, Jesus taught us to pray for his father's kingdom to come his will to be done--he did not say "my will to be done..." etc And in John 3:35-36 we read "The father loves the son and has given all things into his hand.He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life, and he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." Here the scriptures clearly define the Father as one being, and the son, as a separate person. Also consider John 6:38 which says "I have come down from heaven to do not my will, but the will of him that sent me." if Jesus is God, who sent him down from heaven? And why did Jesus yield to the will of that One?

In John 14:28 "You heard that I said to you, I am going away and I am coming back to you. If you love me you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am." Jesus views his father greater than himself. Which would contradict the trinity. Also the word trinity isn't even found in the Bible. If it is such an important doctrine, why not?

You can also reason on these scriptures at John 7:16, Matthew 28:18, Luke 3:21,22 --pray before you look all these up and do more research, and you will find that this doctrine comes from pagan religion. Way back in the time of Moses God's people got lead astray by false gods who were part of a trinity. Everyone should do the research on the subject,and I hope and pray they will. They have only a little time to lose.

The Illustrated Bible Dictionary records: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible. . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that the Trinity "is not. . . directly and immediately the word of God."

The Encyclopedia of Religion And Ethics records: At first the Christian Faith was not Trinitarian. . . It was not so in the apostolic and sub-apostolic ages, as reflected in the New Testament and other early Christian writings."

L. L. Paine, professor of Ecclesiastical History acknowledged: "The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there . . . is utterly without foundation." And lastly: The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity."

I agree with C. S. Lewis “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”

The Encyclopedia of Religion admits: "Theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity."

Source(s):

50 years of studying the Bible with many translations and many different reference materials

Yes, he acted badly.

You do realize that has nothing to do with the observed fact of evolution, don't you?

As for "persuading" you -- if you want to know facts, then go educate yourself.

If you want to live in a little fantasy world where magical gods magically make things, go right ahead.

It's not our responsibility to educate you, it takes time and effort and work, and it's up to you to do that for yourself. Just be aware that if you go around in public claiming facts are "false," and that magical gods made things, rational and intelligent people are going to criticize and ridicule you -- and rightly so.

Look, I believe in evolution and all that, but this is petty. It's only the Internet, bro. He's just some idiot who figured out how to use computers. Don't be childish.

Sounds like "Michael" is a complete fool. Report him for threatening!

You're probably right. Let's just give up trying to find the answers.

I concede your point.

GODDIDIT

Take a biology class. If that doesn't convince you take some chemistry to know how biology happens. If that doesn't convince you then take some physics to learn how chemistry works. If you are still not convinced maybe you should have stayed awake in those classes.

Here, I'll help Michael with different reports that stem from the E. Coli experiment where we observed evolution happen before our very eyes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC243033...

http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/strainsource.html

http://myxo.css.msu.edu/ecoli/overview.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC346111...

http://books.google.com/books?id=2BIK4_B_180C&pg=P...

Articles that tell of evidence behind evolution:

http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/darwin/tex...

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm

http://www.cracked.com/article_19213_7-animals-tha...

http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-e...

Good enough for you yet?

The theory of evolution is that all plants and animals descended from a single-cell organism (or from a few germs). That is impossible.

The 3.5 billion year fossil record shows there was zero small-change linkage between different types of animals.. So the biggest flaw is that it did not happen.

2. IF EVOLUTION IS FACT

If we do not know how life originated - how can we say that an evolutionary process leading back to 'Origins' is FACT? "The short answer is, we don't really know how life originated on this planet...we have some ideas but we remain in substantial ignorance." Dr. Andrew Knoll - Professor, Biology - Harvard University, Author of LIFE ON A YOUNG PLANET.

July 2004

3. IF EVOLUTION IS FACT

Here is what we know about DNA

*DNA is the building block of all 2 million known species of life.

*EACH species has its own unique DNA "code." *We are now in the process of unlocking the complex 'language' of DNA and have discovered that indeed the DNA code has letters, syntax, sequences and purpose - in short, it meets all the definitions of a true 'language.'

*DNA language is the only true language known to exist that was not created by man. In other words -- all other languages exist as a result of "intelligence." In light of the above known facts...How did DNA get here? How did it originate in over 2 million unique ways? How does a 'language' with 'purpose' - randomly originate and WHY - when we have never observed the random, non-purposed origination of any other language known to man?

"DNA makes clear that [**** erectus] was almost certainly a dead end and not our ancestor." Begley, S. 2007. Beyond Stones & Bones. Newsweek. 149 (12): 55

4. IF EVOLUTION IS FACT

How did the sexes originate? Why is it that the vast majority of living things require a "male and female" to reproduce? If evolution were true - doesn't it make much more sense that EVERY living organism was self-replicating and required no useless energy expenditure? When did the first male get here? When did the first female get here? How? Why? Wouldn't they have had to appear fully functional and at the same time in order for the next generation of organisms to arrive? Of course, they would. So, how is it that the first male and female for almost 2 million living organisms arrived together and fully functional so that reproduction could take place? "Sex is the QUEEN of evolutionary biology problems."

Dr. Graham Bell - In his book, The Masterpiece of Nature: The Evolution of Genetics and Sexuality

5. IF EVOLUTION IS FACT

Then how do we explain the uniqueness of man? Of over 2 million species of life on the planet - NOTHING even comes close to man's intelligence and dominion over all the other living things. It appears - according to the ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE that everything has been placed here for man and man alone. If man were removed from the planet - the planet would survive just fine. However, if any one single other major element of earth were removed, it would eventually die. The closest animal to man in intelligence is reported to be the chimpanzee. Yet, chimps swing in trees and eat bananas. Man writes books, invents technology, flies through the air, travels to space, uses computers, drives in cars that he invented, makes fire, cooks his food, grows his foods, produces food for other animals, etc., etc. - you get the point. NOTHING compares to man - out of 2 million known forms of life. If evolution were true - how can this be?

6. IF EVOLUTION IS FACT

Then how do you explain the origin of human language? Why do only humans possess language out of over 2 million total species of life? We know that other life forms have forms of rudimentary 'communication.' But NO OTHER LIFE FORM has a language system - defined by letters, alphabet, syntax, rules and purpose. Man is the only living thing to use this language to produce literature, art, media, mass communication and to develop technologies to transfer this mass communication. Man is the only living thing to pass on generational knowledge, amass libraries and produce systems to store generational knowledge. Doesn't it make sense that as over 2 million known forms of life were "evolving" that more than 1 in 2,000,000 would have developed some type of language meeting the above language requirement definitions? Why only man?

The name Micheal means one who is like God.