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Is 195,000 jobs added enough to support recovery? How do 102 mil who lost jobs under Obama recover @ this rate?

With the latest BLS survey reports suggesting as many as 195,000 jobs may have been added to the economy in June, liberals appear thrilled. An all Democrat led economy hemorrhaged 8.3 million jobs under Obama’s crash and burn losses in 2009 and 2010 before the DOL’s real employers’ payroll record counts at the ETA showed flat numbers for the first half of 2011, then adding jobs at a pace that wasn’t hurting the economy for the first time under Obama in the second half of 2011.

Perhaps for perspective, the real jobs growth of more than 7 million under Bush, which showed 133,886,830 Americans gainfully employed in January of 2009, showed a modest loss after 19 straight calendar quarters of growth at 15,557 during Bush’s final three months in Office. The crushing 8.3 million in actual counted jobs lost didn’t ramp up significantly before the second half of 2009 on nationwide job counts, which showed 8 straight calendar quarters of devastating losses under the economy led by a Democrat super majority Congress and a community organizer with a sketchy past in the Oval Office. Flat quarterly employers’ payroll record growth of just 12,595 in April 2011 ahead of 234,728 at the start of July 2011 on actual ETA counts, rather than survey-based BLS figures, showed the first half of 2011 inching upward for the first time with a modest gain of 247,323 recognizable jobs added to the economy at a pace of 41,220 jobs added monthly across the first six months of the year.

Since economists mostly debate where between 150,000 and 200,000 the economy is providing jobs for new, come-of-age, ready and hopeful entrants to the jobs market, anything less than the numbers of new workers infused into the economy means further losses of jobs overall. With almost 3.5 million college graduates and another 1.2 million high school and trade school graduates who chose not to enter higher education programs annually entering the workforce for a fifth consecutive spring under Obama, verifiable counts of our own nation’s young adults seeking jobs, according to the Digest of Education Statistics has reached about 23.5 million under this Administration. Of course, for young adults who entered college, a substantial percentage never graduate, and while estimates vary and don’t have the accuracy of DES counts, none claim more than 60% graduation rate in four-year degree granting higher education programs. Therefore the 23.5 million entrants from amongst our own young adults is vastly understated. Add to that more than 5 million LPR’s granted green cards, almost three-quarters of a million H1B visa recipients, almost 300,000 refugees and asylees, and the latest wave of 5-7 million mostly Mexican National illegal migrants having crossed our southern border uninvited, the overall growth of ready new workers vaults into a mid-30 million range since the Obama Administration took over in 2009. More honest, real math shows a rate of closer to a quarter-million jobs needed to be added each and every month to keep pace with new entrants to the jobs market.

Since real ETA counts show 102.36 million Americans who’ve lost jobs under Obama, according to new filers, also termed first time claimants, for unemployment after job losses during the ugly economy, how many of that group have returned to work when numbers of jobs is finally nearing almost enough to include newcomers to the workforce desperately seeking work to begin an independent adult life?

With tens of millions of former workers still counted amongst the long-term unemployed or purged from the ranks of marginally attached discouraged workers on BLS figures altogether, how many of the 102.36 million have in any way been restored? And with numbers the left and an unabashed liberal media celebrates, which is close but short of the real number of new jobs needed to add our latest come-of-age entrants and generously increasing immigrant/migrant counts of job seekers to the workforce, how are we recovering from the dreadful losses that remain 4.67 million workers down from the 133,886,830 employed Americans when Obama took Office that shows just 129,204,324 on Department of Labor real counts?

Why would anyone celebrate 195,000 jobs added, using survey-based metrics, no less, and suggest we’re experiencing healthy growth and desperately needed recovery? Those who study the numbers know better. This is an extension of the virtual recovery presented last summer to convince an American electorate the President shouldn’t be denied a second term based on the faltering, moribund economy he’s overseen and addresses simply by pretending it’s dramatically different from what it is to those who continue to feel the pain.

http://www.rockymountainperspective.com/985-millio...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/business/economy...

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/04/05/real-unemp...

Update 2:

For your information, Ricki, and anyone willing to learn how badly the American workforce has been hammered under Obama, the links carefully support the data in the question above. The Rocky Mountain Perspective link shows 2012 and 2013 job loss counts from the ETA on a weekly basis, and a full summary of every week of the Obama Presidency is shown under the adjacent Real Unemployment tab at the bottom of the page. As incredible as it may seem, this Administration has, indeed, suffered 102.36 million new filers for unemployment after job losses nationwide. And that's with a workforce of 133,886,830 gainfully employed Americans handed off in January 2009 by President Bush.. Feel free to do the math which shows a mind boggling percentage of the workforce having lost jobs under the Community-Organizer-in-Chief, strictly by the numbers. It's ugly. But most who've paid attention already know that.

Update 3:

Shady, your post showed a measure of wisdom. At the same time, you missed the largest destroyer of jobs and income since the Clinton years. That's been unchecked, runaway illegal migration. I usually refer to the number as being in the tens of millions, but if one wants more accuracy, a senior ICE agent identified internal recognition of more than 30 million. Two DHS agents with whom I've had extensive discussions about this issue confirmed that as not only possible but likely. Answers I've posted elsewhere deal with that in more detail, but this Administration and liberal progressive policies have impeded ICE and CBP efforts to where the rank and file ICE agents union filed suit against Janet Napolitano and John Morton. Returns and removals have dwindled to about 30% of what took place from 1997-2002, and around half of what the average number sent back home was during Bush's 8 years overall. That NWO foolishness wrecks economies and lives of citizens who deserve bette

Update 4:

The last link above touches on who got the lions share of Bush's 7-million-plus payroll documented job growth ahead of Obama's 4.67 million loss of jobs overall. I could easily share 50 supportive links and considerable research over this issue, but instead, I'll share just one more, in case there's interest. The following linked film is current and soon to be released, but in clips and written words, you can tell how damaging this filmmaker sees illegal migration having been. He does a great job of documenting what Obama and the left openly support with absolutely no concern for the costs imposed on Americans. That's what Michael Lynch focuses on in his timely documentary film.

http://www.theycometoamerica.com/

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  • Anonymous
    8 years ago
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    Not to mention, most of those jobs are likely part time and nothing someone can support themselves on.

    Part time jobs are becoming the normal now because of the job-killing Obamacare.

    The number of part-time workers for economic reasons climbed to 8.2 million in June from 7.6 million in March.

    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/a-sur...

    During Bush's presidency, if only 195,000 jobs were added, he'd be criticized, but under Obama, it's celebrated. It only equals out to 3900 per state. That's not nearly enough.

    Source(s): oops I forgot that liberals hate facts.
  • 8 years ago

    Can we just stop blaming the president and start blaming the corporate culture. Profit first over anything. We drive wages into the ground for profit, then we drive the cost of the product as high as we can. What would you think is going too happen. You can even blame outsourcing, increased productivity. How about technology, you can keep track of everything now on a single computer hooked into corporate headquarters. Efficiency?

    Blame Wallstreet and their earnings estimate, blame all those that are investors and get free money from the working class with little risk. Blame billionaire investors taking up the majority of the share of profits that could instead go too those that work and provide economic impact. Blame all of the consolidation of jobs, where a person that once did one job, now does three. Blame machines. What about IT professionals? Blame all of the low wage jobs produced and all of the high wage jobs outsourced. Although you worked so very hard at proving your point it's all obama's fault it had very little too obama or bush. We don't need as many people too produce as many goods as we did 30 years ago, or even 10 years ago. Blame when you look around your house that not a single thing was actually made in this country. That's a lot of jobs right there.

    Now you know where most of the blame should be, who are you mad at.

  • 8 years ago

    Just to keep up with population growth requires 180,000.

    Remember, they lie about the numbers. Plus even good numbers are later revised down.

    I've had the radio on all morning and first report was 165,000 then they changed it to 195,000. But a month from now it will be revised down.

    Those numbers are meaningless because they are seasonally adjusted, deaths are factored in, and a lot of other fudging factors. I don't pay any attention to them.

  • 8 years ago

    And what are these jobs? From what I'm hearing most are in the service area like fast food places and the like. How many are temporary and how many will benefit those who spent a lot of money to get an education to get a career. It's all hype for the 2014 elections he has to win, so who even knows if the numbers are actual.

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  • 8 years ago

    It is not enough to keep up with just college grads alone, let alone the rest of the lay offs, unemployed, people returning to the work force, and they say we need immigration to fill vacancies?

    I don't know that math.

  • 8 years ago

    obama has no plans for the 102 mil. !

    the 195,000 will all come from mexico!!

    it's down, it's dirty, but that's the way it is!!

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    What Babs said.

  • 8 years ago

    Why? Because it's better than a kick in the teeth. I realize that people like you will never celebrate anything that happens under Obama. You will use numbers and irrationality to pretend it doesn't matter.

    Now, take your metrics back to 1980 and bring them forward on the median income starting with Reagan. You want to know where all the jobs went, there's your answer. As more and more people either made less or did not gain in income in spite of inflation, all those people bought less and less stuff, which means companies have fewer and fewer customers so they have to lay off unnecessary workers. Of course, then there're all the jobs that went to China, India, Pakistan, etc. because Americans had this annoying habit of wanting to be able to eat on what they make. Isn't it just awful?!

  • Anonymous
    8 years ago

    I'm on vacation, not a care in the world.. I'm travelin' the globe, I can't be bothered.

  • 8 years ago

    At that rate, it would take about five months....

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