why did the soviets get to keep poland after the war?

The "Polish Question" is part of a centuries-old issue that has never been resolved. There are several aspects:

1. Russia's eternal enemy is Germany, dating back at least to Alexander Nevsky. This is why Russia and France are frequent allies (as in the Yugoslavian wars of the 1990s, when France sided with Russia's client Serbia while Slovenia and Croatia adhered to their traditional partner, Germany).

2. Russia has always sought to keep buffer states between themselves and the Germans, and the most appropriate candidate for that function is Poland.

3. From the 1770s until 1919, there was no independent nation of Poland. Most of it was part of the Russian Empire (with other parts in Prussia and Austria). Thus the USSR's domination of Poland only continued a long tradition of Poland's appearing and disappearing as a truly independent nation.

4. Between World War I and World War II, East Prussia was a part of Germany that was separated from the rest of the country by the "Polish Corridor." After 1945, it became part of Poland when the borders were redrawn. Germans were displaced from that area, and some German cities became part of Poland and were given Polish names (e.g., Stettin/Sczeczin, Danzig/Gdansk).

5. Since the fall of Rome in 476, Europe has been trying to sort out the issue of who gets to be a country and who doesn't. That's why there are 50 nations in that small continent, and the number keeps changing as nations come and go. Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia broke up in the 90s, and Belgium is close to a breakup now.

6. Traditionally, Russia has vacillated over whether to take up the "Slavic Burden" and become the master/protector of the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe and the other ethnic groups nearby. Currently, this idea is in a downswing, as the USSR broke up into over a dozen nations, such as Russia, Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine, Lithuania, et al., after the fall of Communism. When and if Russia decides to again take on the Slavic Burden remains to be seen.

Always take history in the long view - no event or occurrence is independent of the past.

Despite the enormous contribution of Poland during the war years for the allies Poland got shafted by the so called allies - in a devious way.

Germany got a better deal.

"the german invasion of poland started the war for god's sake. by the end it was still occupied just by different people."

Give yourself 10 points for best answer lol.

The Russians keeping Poland [and Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia] wasn't a choice thing.

During the various Allied Conferences all allies agreed upon defeating the Germans in occupied territories, those territories would be in essence given back to the people, a democratic government of the people's chosing - the western allies anyways well aware anything other wouldn't be true liberation at all. Just an exchange of masters.

The Russians agreed, but backtracked.

After the devastation caused by Napoleon, the First World War, the Second World War - they thought screw fighting wars on our own turf... so they broke their promises using the 'liberated' countries as a buffer zone.

Even before the war ended the likes of Churchill and Patton figured the Russians were messing around and as much if not a bigger threat to the world and peace and freedom than Germany was - and repeatedly warned Roosevelt of this. FDR though was practically on his death bed, he thought everyone was just being dramatic and all he wanted was the war over - he didn't really care how.

It basically boiled down to who had the most Divisions left in Europe... the Allies were redeploying their militaries to the Pacific theatre; and the Russians vastly outnumbered the western Allies.

It just wasn't worth going to war over with Japan still a viable enemy... and after again, wasn't worth a WWIII.

Enter, the Cold War - NATO vs The Warsaw Pact.

"the german invasion of poland started the war for god's sake"

The tragedy of Poland being one of the sadder legacies of WW2... they couldn't win for losing.

Because FDR gave Poland to Stalin

at the First meeting of the Big 3 Churchill Stalin and FDR

Churchill said British and french troops Must Liberate Poland and FDR insisted that the USSR are our allies and they should do it

Churchill refused to move then FDR bribed Churchill wit a 6 Billion extension of lend lease to start after WW2

Poland was stabbed in the Back and when FDR died Truman cancelled the Loan so Both Poland and Great Britain were stabbed in the Back by an American president then in 1945 Churchill said and Iron curtain has fallen over eastern Europe

and Poland never Got the Free elections that stalin promised with Poland

It Is a Pity the USA never Listened to Wilson who was More Intelligent than Both FDR and Truman

Wilson dubbed the Bolsheviks "barbarians," "terrorists" and "tyrants." He said they were engaged in a "brutal" campaign of "mass terrorism," of "blood and terror," of "indiscriminate slaughter" through "cunning" and "savage oppression." The "violent and tyrannical" Bolsheviks were "the most consummate sneaks in the world," and Bolshevism was an "ugly, poisonous thing." Wilson warned that the Bolsheviks were pushing an "expansionist" ideology that they wanted to export "throughout the world," including into the United States.

Most significant, Wilson and his State Department insisted that America should not have diplomatic relations or try to find common ground with the Bolsheviks. "In the view of this government," said Wilson's State Department in August 1920, "there cannot be any common ground upon which it can stand with a power whose conceptions of international relations are so entirely alien to its own, so utterly repugnant to its moral sense. ... We cannot recognize, hold official relations with, or give friendly reception to the agents of a government which is determined and bound to conspire against our institutions; whose diplomats will be the agitators of dangerous revolt; whose spokesmen say that they sign agreements with no intention of keeping them."

I believe that Eisenhower should have Let Paton have his way and raced to Berlin before the Russians the Germans would as they had been surrendering in the Thousands to the British and the Americans and french

Why did they??

LOL -because they occupied it, and were the strongest force in Europe at the time. You don't just tell Stalin to do something, and he immediately complies. All powerful dictators rarely respond in that fashion.

Even if the British or the U.S had told them to leave, we had no way to force them out. The western allies were hugely outnumbered (by the Soviets). And were already shipping soldiers to the pacific for an attack on Japan.

It was the agreement set at the Yalta Conference when the three main powers divide up Europe from the Nazis and Poland was taken by Stalin

Germany had already given the other half of Poland to the Soviets anyway and the other allies were not wanting to upset Stalin

H-man

They didn't keep Poland after the war. They just made sure that there was a Polish Communist regime installed.

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The Polish leadership were against it, the British were against it, the Americans were against it, and nobody was in a position to do anything about it.

Who was going to take it away?