Does the complexity of organic life imply some kind of rational design?

Does the complexity of organic life imply some kind of rational design?

~~~ It surely does, to some.

Not all, though.

"Complexity" exists in the eye of the beholder!

I might see a simple roadside rock, another might see a mass of crystalline structure with magnificently flat planes all full of healthy elements; carbon, , magnesium... happy molecules; silicon dioxide... perhaps a fossil... All sorts of magnificent 'complexity'!

A bic lighter is a mighty unusual and divinely complex thing to an ignorant villager in the 1200s!

Not to someone today.

Get it?

That is where the 'complexity' argument for ID fails!

If you ask Christians, they will say yes.

If you ask Atheists, they will say that it was the lifeform itself that evolved slowly into something more complex.

But since you asked ME (among others), i will tell you what i think. i think that it doesn't imply anything at all, unless you are reading into the situation, which, unless that yields some hard evidence, is meaningless.

People have the propensity to read into situations, and project what they already believe as the answer, which strongly biases things, and makes you lose your objectivity.

People need to remember that evidence is not the same as proof, and there is a reason we have no "facts" in this area as yet...

Cause and Effect.

The Universe being the cause and designer, and Organic Life being the effect.

No. The mathematics of chaos theory and, in particular, complexity developed in the last few decades, shows how you can have a system with stunning order and yet significant apparent (and sometimes actual) freedom starting with relatively few scientific principals. Some simple examples that scientists have explained with very simple rules include the behavior of flocking birds and schooling fish that exhibit incredible intelligence in how they move in unison and evade predators without having any of them have to be aware of that strategy. They simply evolved to follow simple rules that resulted in more of them surviving to pass those instincts on to their offspring.

No, all complex life has been shown to derive from something simpler. The ID(iot) people struck out big time with that approach.

At the electron level, the atomic interactions occur randomly. So assuming that they interactions are truly random, there is no rational design because randomness is irrational.

No it does not. Look into evolution by natural selection. That's all you need to explain the complexity we see around us.

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A bit of reading in biology, and paleontology, will show you that life is a sloppy effort that usually fails.

In the minds of some, yes. In the minds of others, no, but there is nothing intrinsically logical about either conclusion.

Not at all. Life is just happenstance.