Skeptics, when will you put these Marshall Islanders in their place?

If they are that worried then either take a lesson from the Dutch or get the heck out of Dodge, but don't expect me to be unemployed paying 5 times as much for basic necessities because a small number of people live on a little rock in the middle of a massive ocean.

Catastrophic sea rise is bullshite.

Edit for asker - because that is the supposed cure for this poor little planet, increased living costs and taxation.

Edit for asker - Grow up for God's sake, we ALL pay more for EVERYTHING since this scam started, or are you too deluded to see this obvious truth.?

Ha ha, no answer to obvious truths.

Didn't I read somewhere that the total sea level rise around the Marshall Islands since the war is about 5"?

I think you are just being gullible. The same arguments are made about ice melting. If anything happens to ice it is claimed to be melting. If it calves into the sea it is said to be melting. If snow disappears from Mt Kilimanjaro it is said to be melting. If it reduces in Antarctica it is said to be melting. The fact is that many of these places do not go above freezing point. The general population does not know of any other way ice can "disappear". So that is what they believe.

Same with the oceans. The claims are that anything sea related is caused by sea level rise. This includes hurricanes, flooding, deltas disappearing, populations moving, coastal erosion, etc. Some times the problem is caused by land sinking. Sometimes the land in question was only temporary in the first place; not all land poking out of the sea can be expected to be "permanent". Some times there are land use changes or using dynamite to catch fish! Again, people are being misled by being given only part of a story. In the UK we keep losing part of the east coast. It is still well above sea level but it falls in to the sea anyway.

The tide levels for Avonmouth, west UK, today are about 10m high and 3m low. The record highs and lows are over 14m (ie over 46 feet) and 0m. An eighth of an inch a year is hardly significant.

The other question is: How much of that eighth of an inch is entirely natural and how much man-made?

This is a perfect illustration of what I have been talking about.

The media talks about how AGW is so bad it is now even disturbing the dead. Ignore the Island subisdence. Ignore that parts of the islan may be sinking. Ignore that overall the Marshall Islands seem to have grown since WW2. Ignore that there are other factors with loss o fland to the ocean, like sea walls. The answer MUST be AGW, for no other reason than that it fits your political views.

If these islanders are anything like you no amount of logic or reason will convince them that the Koch brothers have not hijacked and holding nature hostage and that they cleverly disguise disasters they are causing as natural events. These Koch brothers are clever, they even have a time machine they use to go back to get sea levels to rise to make the rise they're creating look natural. But there is no fooling the really smart people who know this natural veil will soon be lifted and we'll all be sorry when Florida and moat of the world's island nations are under water and catastrophic weather events consume the planet.

Quote from the Telegrapgh

" However, despite extensive damage to parts of the Marshall Islands' coast, researchers have begun to cast doubt on claims that the Pacific islands have already begun to disappear or that the damage is due to rises in sea levels that have occurred in recent decades. Indeed, while experts say the nation does face a long-term threat, new findings show that many of the islands are largely either remaining stable or growing.

Dr Murray Ford, from the University of Auckland, has been comparing aerial photographs of the islands taken by the United States military during World War II with photographs taken in the 1970s and in recent years. He found that many islands are getting larger and that the shrinking shoreline along coastal villages has largely been caused by commercial development, building of seawalls and land reclamation.

“It is a much more complicated story than the island being washed away,” he said.

“What the people are seeing is real – there are graves and houses falling into the water – but often it is a result of engineering and sea walls being built inappropriately. Some parts of some islands are eroding as sand has moved around but some islands are growing in size.”

A newly-published study showed a southern atoll which was devastated by a 1905 typhoon has grown back to a stable state, with its vegetated area expanding by about a quarter since 1945; other smaller islands joined together to form a single landmass.

Dr Ford said climate change is causing sea levels to rise at an increasing rate and the phenomenon poses a serious threat to the islands. But, he said, the damage that has occurred so far has been due to “inappropriate” construction, while some islands have grown due to natural accretion and endlessly shifting shorelines.

“The sea level is rising and will accelerate and on the ground the response will not be pretty,” Dr Ford said.

“But the islands have shown a wide range of change and not all of that is erosion… The story in Majuro is very much a human-driven impact on the island. In the outer islands, it is driven much more by waves, currents and movements of the sands.”

The scientists are still trying to understand the changes in the islands, which can shift shape over time periods ranging from hours to centuries and can sometimes erode during winter and grow back in the summer.

An expert on coastal changes, Professor Colin Woodroffe, from the University of Wollongong, said population increases and inhabitation of low-lying lands are probably playing a part in the increasing signs of damage.

“To say the little bit of rise has led to the erosion is too simple,” he said. “The islands are already quite vulnerable to erosion - human settlement is the most important factor.”

For the residents, these unpredictable changes continue to wreak havoc and leave a question mark over their future.

At the northern end of the small island of Laura, Barmi Rockmido, 51, a mother of five, points to the dilapidated house next door, whose neighbours fled as the land around the house began to erode.

Standing on a dwindling patch of grass that was once her lush garden with an outdoor oven and a well, Mrs Rockmido says she accepts that her home may be next.

“It’s up to the gods,” she says

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Joe. yes sea levels are rising tide gauges say 1.78mm per year, which is nothing really.

erosion is much more serious, believe or not but I owned a beach lot for many years, and erosion was a big problem, which I solved by building a sea wall, and I gained a white sand beach where before was pebbles.

Sea level has been rising for centuries, not just since 1978.

The islands are indeed.....sinking. Do a search using "subsidence Marshall Islands".

In fact, many islands are subsiding.....reset a search using "subsidence Maldives".

The islands could be sinking. But if they are, that would make a rise of sea level more of a threat.

rising for centuries

there are other islands in danger in the south pacific as well , Fiji, samoa, tonga , even in new Zealand there are signs of beaches where one was able to walk; are now high tide