Why do people treat the idea of an independent man as positive but an independent women as some kind of man hater.?

Where I live, it's the opposite way around. Just to tell ya though. I think of everyone as equals. Independent woman good for her. Independent man good for him. Maybe women where you live say it in a bad way that might seem threatening to everyone. The words" I don't need a man" and "I would be better without a man in my life" can cause a stir in some societies. It makes them think you don't like men. I can see the relavence of that and am sorry people get the wrong ideal about it. Peace.

Men in themselves are independent. Men and women are not the same and there is nothing wrong with that. women need men, it's how we've been made, and it is the ones who try to be independent from men that do have a problem with men, and they can't live it out. They depend on those around them and a society that carries them.

Because the concept of "Independence" shouldn't be genderized at all.

I've never seen a male say "I am an Independent man, not bound or reliant on any woman, I am free. I am man, I am free!!".

Independence is an adult concept related to being self-reliant, self-efficient, and responsible.

Independence has no gender-related connotations behind it - any male or female can be independent.

Men do not recognize or acknowledge themselves as "independent". They simply go about and live their lives independently.

Some women however can not do this. They cannot "simply go about and live their lives independently", but need to entitle themselves as an "Independent woman".

You were independent by default. Men are independent by default. Women are independent by default.

Some women however may label themselves as "independent" unneccessarily.

You were already independent when you moved out of the house and got your own place, what reason would you need to self-identify and pridefully label yourself as an "Independent woman"?

You are an independent PERSON, do not genderize a gender neutral term.

Nobody is independent. We all need someone. That goes for business owners who depend on clientele to people who depend on jobs. An "independent woman" is a misnomer or an oxymoron. The term career woman would be more accurate.

I don't think that; being independent is a good thing. It means you're not a gold digging parasite.

Probably for the same reason that a female home maker is acceptable but a male homemaker is a bum.

who do you mean by "people" ? what i see is only feminists who use shaming tactics on independent men, indepent men who are MRAs and MgtoWs. alot of other men have noticed and mentioned those feminist shaming tactics too.

check your reallity

You mean it sounds almost like a gender role

oh my god.. here we go with the butch lesbian feminists... stop being a feminist and enjoy life.... men aren't monsters..