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How many times does the David Viner quote about snow have to be intentionally misconstrued before it stops being "sarcasm"?
The gelatinous global warming denier is once again trotting out the David Viner quote about snow and intentionally misinterpreting it. Is this considered "sarcasm" when it's already been done a few dozen times, or has it passed that point and just become one more tired lie from the denial crowd?
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- Gary FLv 76 years agoFavorite Answer
I assume you are referring to Dr ‘Death to Knowledge’ Jello’s latest effort in his continuing freefall from reality:
“In science, if one test fails, then the entire theory is thrown out. Why are failed tests in global warming used to prove it's is real?”
A theory “may” be proven wrong if a specific test of a fundamental specific theoretical conclusion produces a specific result - like Einstein’s famous quote about his Theory of General Relativity – which, in fact, not only is not absolutely true – Einstein knew it was not true. When a reporter later asked Einstein what it would mean if Eddington's observations did not support his theory, Einstein said, "Then I would feel sorry for the good Lord. The theory is correct."
Climate model forecasts are not scientific tests of AGW because: they are not hypothesis tests (and, in fact, they cannot even be formulated as hypotheses because of the assumptions they are based on and the fact that they rely on statistically-derived parameter estimates to investigate climate data that do not yet exist and that are functions of a chaotic system.
You can generate hypothesis tests using climate model results that can be compared to existing data (backcasting rather forecasting) – and what you get are powerful, significant, positive test results.
In any case, rejecting the null hypothesis does not disprove it because statistical representations of physical phenomena are the physics of the process.
Jello and Mike are not just clueless about science – they do not even know what their “alleged” evidence is or means.
>> For example when the British Climate Research Unit, HadCRUT, cam out in 2000 stating that the climate models proved that “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past …<<
You don’t even need to know how to spell science to know that a verbal statement made by one employee is not the same thing as an official public position statement by a professional organization – not to mention Jello’s ignorant reference to the nonexistent “British Climate Research Unit” (which is like calling the Los Alamos National Laboratory the American National Laboratory) and the absurdity of his “…British Climate Research Unit, HadCRUT,… (as if a collection of numerical measurements can not only have a policy position – but can voice its opinion and contribute in a human-like manner to drafting an institution’s policy statement).
This is all so ignorant, stupid, and wrong that if one of the local “skeptics” who can define science does not draw the line here then their rejection of science is complete.
OM did not step up to the plate, Pindar does not know what the plate looks like and can’t find it, Mike has never heard of the plate – and, so, hilariously provides us with his Einstein example that is not an example either of Newton’s science or Jello and Sagebrush’s “real” science, and kano just randomly strings words together into an infinite number of imaginary plates.
This might be a good opportunity for Raisin Caine to kick Jello and Sage to the back of the bus and try driving the show himself.
- KanoLv 76 years ago
Quote.
According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.
Well when people say silly things for effect, they tend to have their noses rubbed in it, forevermore,
- PindarLv 76 years ago
Misconstrued ? There's nothing misconstrued, he said a very silly thing for political reasons and now his political adversaries will always remind him of that. Perhaps if he'd have stuck to science instead of politics he wouldn't be forever labeled as a clown.
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- 6 years ago
I look at http://iceagenow.info/ site every now and again. Always worth the look; as for this week [excluding the many US and Canada ice/snow/freeze reports] there are these -
France – Snow and avalanches in the Pyrenees -Video
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 26, 2015
Roads blocked and villages without electricity.
Afghan death toll now above 200
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 26, 2015
“We have not seen this much snow in Panjshir, or this many avalanches, for decades,”
Spain – Roads in Leon closed by snowfall
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 25, 2015 ·
Several highways in NE China closed due to heavy snow
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 25, 2015
23 Feb 2015 (Xinhuanet) — Spring festival celebrations have been hit by snow and sandstorm across the north and northeast of the country, bringing traffic to a standstill in many areas.
Northeast China – 8,000 tourists stranded by snow
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 24, 2015
22 Feb 2015 – Traffic departments in China’s northernmost province of Heilongjiang are working day and night to clear snow on expressways and escort stranded passengers back home.
Saudi authorities on high alert after blizzard
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 24, 2015
Health and security officials in Tabuk have been on full alert because of snowstorms in the northwestern part of the Kingdom over the past two days.
Heavy snowfall paralyses life in Azerbaijan
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 23, 2015
Greatest snowfall since 1968 leaves many stores without bread and essential goods.
France – Passenger train blocked by snow for more than six hours
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 22, 2015
“The train was helpless against the snow.”
France – Snow strands thousands of vacationers on the roads
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 22, 2015
A lesson in patience thousands of vacationers.
Heavy snow in Jerusalem and parts of Mideast – Dozens of villages isolated
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 21, 2015
Rare snow blankets parts of Israel, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.
Snowfall in Konya (Turkey)
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 21, 2015
1,5 meters deep … one inch short of 5 feet.
Heavy Snow Blankets Jerusalem – Video
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 21, 2015
This video shows Jerusalem blanketed in thick snow early on the morning of Friday, February 20.
Snow all over Athens
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 20, 2015
19 Feb 2015 – Athens awoke dressed in white for one more day.
One meter of snowfall in Troodos, Cyprus
by ROBERT on FEBRUARY 19, 2015
19 Feb 2015. Cyprus in deep freeze.
- Anonymous6 years ago
I recall at least one question in YA where someone from the UK did say that snow in the UK is getting rare. Just as David Viner predicted.
- BaccheusLv 76 years ago
Readers recognize a pathalogical liar. Jello purposely blocks people with science education so that his untruthful statements are not answered.
A truthful person asking honest questions would not block educated people.
A professional political operative using social media for propaganda would block all educated people in an attempt to mislead uneducated people. Yahoo allows this forum to used that way.