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Question regarding claims about Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri and the Messiah and other similar cases?
There is a fairly well known claim that has been made by several people about the late Rabbi Yitzchak Kaduri and that he allegedly identified the Messiah as being Jesus.
Here is an example (including my own response to the issue):
This claim is bogus BTW, but that is not what I want to focus on.
I want to know what exactly is the mindset of those who actually believe this sort of story?
It seems to me that the word "gullible" comes to mind. Would it be fair to use that word?
Another way of putting it... since the chances of a well known rabbi with numerous followers believing in Jesus is nil, then why do some people not approach the claim with skepticism? Why do they so readily believe it?
And another case (this may seem to be a bit of jump) : Dr. David Stern, in his initial editions of his book "Jewish New Testament Commentary", made a claim about the Jewish commentator Rashi that seemed to imply that Rashi supported the concept of the virgin birth. Later on, he was told that this was based on a misquote and he eventually corrected the issue.
Now, it came to light in the affair, that Dr. Stern did not actually do the research on Rashi and instead got the claim from another source (which he didn't cite).
So, my question is similar to the one above? Why wasn't he more skeptical about the claim? Why did he readily believe this claim about Rashi to the point where he didn't bother to double check?
And another case: There is another claim that Isaiah 53 was deliberately omitted from the Hatarah. This claim is also false. But my question is the same: Why is such a claim so readily believed?
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- allonyoavLv 75 years agoFavorite Answer
"I want to know what exactly is the mindset of those who actually believe this sort of story?
It seems to me that the word "gullible" comes to mind. Would it be fair to use that word? "
Gullible would be one word- I would go for DESPERATE! They try so hard to validate their beliefs by converting Jews that anything they think they can twist to justify their beliefs they jump on. It doesn't matter what the facts are as long as it can be used for them to try and claim that the Jews agree with them! It really just comes down to that- desperation. The Jews have rejected their messiah for 2000 years and they hate that fact. At the end of the day they hate the doubt it creates- if Jesus was Jewish why did his own people reject him? If Jesus was Jewish, if his disciples were Jewish, why are Jews able to point out massive errors in the Christian scriptures ranging from mistranslations, to outright fabrications, to anachronisms to blatant errors about Judaism and Jewish beliefs. So when they think they can validate their religion by pointing to a Jew they rush to accept such information since it directly addresses those fears they do not want to confront- that the Jews who have followed the Torah and have a direct line of transmission from Moshe to them, and have had such a connection for 1500 years more than Christianity has even existed.
Source(s): Orthodox Jew; Reverend - MoonWomanLv 75 years ago
Sounds like Dr Stern didn't want to debate. He just wanted to end the conversation. Apparently he is deaf and blind. The Old Testament (Hebrew Version) clearly tells us it is a sin for the Angels to take wives and procreate with the women of the Earth. Because the Angels and mankind sinned, God became tired of the sin and flooded the world to be rid of sin and allow mankind to begin again. Now the OT is the original Bible. It was written some 9000 years ago. It tells us the Messiah will be born of 2 human parents.(no virgin birth) They will name him Immanuel. (not Jesus) Immanuel rebuilds the Jewish Temple and brings peace to all the world. During his time, all of mankind will worship the One True God Almighty - YHVH. (not Jesus) Mankind is not to worship the Messiah. The Messiah doesn't perform miracles or die to return later. The OT tells us it is a sin for the Angels to breed with Earth women. So God Almighty - YHVH- did not come to Earth or send His Spirit to impregnate another man's (Joseph) betrothed. That would be a sin. The offspring of the Angels and the Earth women were called Nephilim.
