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Have you noticed how some religious people go out of their way to show why the Bible doesn't mean what it says and say what it means?

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For example: I've seen lengthy explanations saying why when Mark 16:16 says "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved" mea s something else. (Like: "He that believes and is saved shall be baptized" or something similar.)

Update 2:

In the above update I tried to type "...it means something else."

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  • 3 years ago
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    Yes, we've noticed that. The ironic thing is that those religious people you're referring to typically don't realize that they're stabbing themselves in the foot.

  • 3 years ago

    Yes I have. My answer must have been reported for bogus reasons as it is gone, after hours of researching the Scriptures to one such question concerning whether or not Peter "forgot." Peter forgot nothing; as we know in the Bible, however no matter how many try to refute this belief that he did, we are told again and again we are wrong, furthermore for standing firm, that we are the Anti-Christ. This is a prime example of how people claim some teaching to be good, while anything that refutes it is evil.

    Here is the question and my answer. What did Peter "FORGET"in Acts 11:15-16?etc... (Asked two days ago, but maybe will register as being 3 days, or more depending upon when you see this answer which should be shown at least to someone who might care.)

    Here is my answer to that question! (I've had to post this to you anonymously since my previous answer was reported; missing from that question; only visible to me when I click on the original link from my profile page; however if I click on that link when I am offline, it's vanished!). Son of a gun, I feel sad about that... as it makes me wonder why those who say they love The Truth of God, are so unwilling to admit they may be in error.

    IN Acts 2: We see Peter speaking concerning, how the 3000 people received Spiritual Baptism. Open this link for reference > (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se... Peter in Acts 2 is explaining to those listening; how the Holy Spirit fell upon 3000, Day of Pentecost. Acts 2:38 tells all present to repent, to be baptized, AND receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." promising the Holy Ghost then and there. His Apostolic preaching (Acts 2:22 teaches Jesus Christ as a historic person. In Acts 2:23-24 Jesus crucified and risen;. All of this was prophesied Jesus is God's Messiah in Acts 2: 36. *****Finally, all who turn and believe will be forgiven and given the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:37-38)

    A promise for all : (Acts 2:39) The invitation to respond to the Gospel remains unlimited, we are to share it with all. The invitation still stands.

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    Acts 11: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...

    12 And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:

    13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;

    14Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.

    15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

    16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

    17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

    18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

    Peter was first off BADE by the Holy Spirit to go to Cornelius house...with six Jewish brethern; who also received the baptism by Spirit;

    Now NOTICE THE WORDING by Cornelius... " Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved." (the angel God sent to Cornelius said Peter would tell thee words, wherby thou and all the house shall be saved!!). The most beautiful thing happened here. God through the angel .... revealed to Cornelius to TRUST in the Words that Peter would use.

    Peter marveled at how the Holy Ghost (*****Spirit fell on them, as on us at the beginning***)))15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. These people received that Spiritual Baptism instantly.

    Remembrance verses;

    have everything to do with the vision God gave Peter... take note of how the Jews were against conversion of the Gentiles. *And how in Verse 17 &18; after seeing Cornelius and His house saved and in receivership of the Holy Spirit's Baptism... >>>> They realized they had no right to try to circumvent what God was in favor of, saying "what was I, that I could withstand God? I was not by chance that Peter came in with six Jewish brethren ~ as they were to witness this Glorious Revelation; so they could go back to other Jewish brethren, who still tried to cling to the Law of Moses, having all new converts (Gentiles) be circumcised; follow dietary laws; and other OT ceremonial laws. So the H.Spirit quickened Peter; indeed; as there was much that needed to be unlearned by these brethren, before they could learn. Paul speaks of unlearning before we learn...Paul’s brief, provocative, almost teasing note to his convert Philemon. In it, Paul challenges Philemon to unlearn something and to learn something else in its place.

    18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life." in other words, they shut the heck up... and submitted to God's will.

    16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

    17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

    18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

    19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

    Initially Peter had much trouble with the Jewish converts when it came to Gentiles being new converts to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The problems that existed for Peter were many, as the Jewish brethren expected the Gentile converts to accept all the obligations laid out by the O.T. Law. The idea that a Gentile could have a direct relationship to God, without in fact first becoming a Jew, was not only foreign in 1st century Judaism but was also repugnant. This is why the direct conversion of Cornelius to Christianity was such a shock and stimulated criticism of Peter in the Jerusalem church, which was and which saw itself as JEWISH.

    See Acts 10:9-23). In the 1-st century Judaism Gentiles were considered 'unclean'. Thus a pious Jew could not enter a Gentile house or eat with Gentiles without defiling himself and becoming ceremonially "unclean"... Hence the Vision God granted to Peter taught him that God was about to declare 'clean' a whole new class of people.

    Praise God for the unexpected... I think Peter himself, was astounded in that moment; quickened by the Holy Spirit as well... he didn't forget G.N. He received instantly the Complete Picture what all the Vision was about seeing the Holy Spirit fell on Cornelius and all his household.

    Afterall the Holy Spirit had been directing Peter all through this event. The Holy Spirit clarified in Peter; how Great a Salvation this is; Gentiles were grafted in; keep in mind the Jewish brethren needed further instruction, regeneration as well as the Gentiles. In any moment of Remembrance in and by and through the Powers of the Holy Spirit there is an increase of all the Spiritual Gifting... Peter came doubting nothing...

    12 And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:

    "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (The Holy Spirit was promised by Jesus Christ... as another Comforter!)

    The entire surroundings were anointed by God through the Holy Spirit... how could Peter be in a state of forgetfulness; when the Spirit bade him to go there, waiting for him, and he went doubting nothing?

    All that happened that day was so all could Know The Glory of God; as all there; received such an incredible Gift of Revelation concerning God's plans... and this remembrance is of such significance to us This Day too; as this is the Day the Gentiles were Grafted in, and none could stop or prevent God's Will being done in or upon our earth... as it came from Heaven from the very heart of God! All the Glory belongs to God, Praising His Holy name.

    Peter didn't forget... the Holy Spirit was actively involved that day with all of those present with Peter!!

  • 3 years ago

    Yes I've noticed.

  • Anyone who says what the Bible says is only offering their opinion. No one but the other knows the real intent.

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  • 3 years ago

    Yes. I had to be smart enough and well-studied enough to figure out what I could. That is what happens when there is a lot of interest in something, like the Bible. It takes time, but I had to try.

    Another reason why people are confused is because they are not studying the Bible, and they don't take it seriously. That being said, I had a good time reading the Bible, especially reading through Kings and Chronicles.

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  • 3 years ago

    No.

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