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Theory of the Christian god's desire to not be tested: which is it, and why?
1. God doesn't want us to discover what it really is.
2. God doesn't exist, and the people who made it up don't want anyone to find out it's fiction.
3. Other.
Arimatthewdavies says: "God actually gives you the means and a command to test him on one specific thing that's found in the last chapter of the book of Malachi. Where God tells you to bring your entire tithe and see for yourself if God will not throw open the floodgates of heaven for you so that you have no more want!"
Oh what an original thought. I can't tell you how many times I've heard that verse, which is in the 3rd, not the 4th (last) chapter of the book of Malachi, in a church sermon. Its purpose was always clear to me: give us money.
Ironically, the very chapter you quote also says this: 14 “You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What do we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? 15 But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly evildoers prosper, and even when they put God to the test, they get away with it.’”
Even when they put "God" to the test, they get away with it--the "evildoers" do that.
In response to "Paul", since YA! won't let me comment on his/her post:
Deut. 6:16 "Do not test the lord" Matthew 4:7 KJV et al "shall not tempt", WEB et al "shall not test" Luke 4:12 Give it a guess: https://biblehub.com/luke/4-12.htm
"Tested" does not mean "challenged" or "opposed". Neither does "tempt." Show me what translation or commentary says what you claim.
"Paul", by the way, said ""Tested" means "challenged" or "opposed"."
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- Anonymous2 years agoFavorite Answer
VERY obviously 2
- ?Lv 62 years ago
God does not want to be tested, as in the negative. As in, I see you don't like it when I do this, so I'm going to do it anyways. He welcomes us in measuring out his nature, thoughts, and will. That is why he says that if we seek him with all of our heart, strength, and mind, we will know him. If we put our trust and faith in the sacrifice Christ made, he will give us everlasting life. We do that by coming to know him and that he is truthful. You can only measure truth by experience.
- Anonymous2 years ago
God actually gives you the means and a command to test him on one specific thing that's found in the last chapter of the book of Malachi. Where God tells you to bring your entire tithe and see for yourself if God will not throw open the floodgates of heaven for you so that you have no more want!
- Anonymous2 years ago
On this scripture, the word used is more than test or tempt.
1598 ekpeirázō (from 1537 /ek, "out from and to" and 3985 /peirázō, "tempt") – properly, test out, i.e. with the outcome of testing to an extreme (unwarranted) degree; "hyper-test," going to improper measures which exceed appropriate boundaries and pushing the one tested beyond reasonable (proper) limits.
The 'ek' is beyond, or hyper test.
Would you put, say, your mother to scrutinizing detail of her life?
When would someone do that? Only someone DETERMINED to try to find fault, do you agree?
What would it show if you dug through all your mother's diaries, learned all her 'secrets'?
It seems that love LOOKS, decides, accepts. And then? Defends.
You (likely don't) see that the inferior cannot examine the superior.
3.
What doesn't 'make sense'? I'm sorry if I picked a sensitive topic.
Whoever you value, you don't pick them apart to the nth.
With God who is perfect, we imperfect, our view, ability will be...
biased?...illogical by our defects, skewed by our darkness.
What doesnt 'make sense'.
And yes, I know about 'strange, or difficult' mothers. Just, most think highly of their mother. I did also, just not returned!!
Your last comment explains PRECISELY the EK in the Greek.
Knowledge of Greek is available to anyone; I don't use commentaries.
