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Why do Christians love saying, "for those who don't believe in god, no proof is possible"? Are they just parroting a previous idiotic pope?
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- NousLv 72 years ago
The first person to produce a single tiny little piece of verifiable evidence for any god will become world famous and mega rich!
Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!
There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?
Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!
At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!
Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?
Christianity is an invention of the Italians and that is why it came from the Holy ROMAN Catholic church!
Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!
Josephus AD 37 – AD 100
Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120
Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD
Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD
Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD
Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.
Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD
Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD
Photius AD 877 – 886 AD
Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.
Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!
Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.
Research shows whilst education reduces religious belief each year of further education reduces religious belief by up to 10%!
- magix151Lv 72 years ago
ALL proof I could show is easily explained by science. It is proof for me, but not for anyone else. I think that if a person doesn't believe, there will never be proof enough unless there is a widely seen, well documented event. Until then, I will keep my proof and faith, and let others keep theirs.
- Anonymous2 years ago
Christians don't 'cliam' there is a God, they believe that God exists. It's ironic that those who say 'there are no gods' continually seek evidence that there are.
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- CrustyCurmudgeonLv 72 years ago
They are confusing faith with fact. Hebrews 11:1 explains the true Christian proof of the existence of God, and the veracity of the Jesus Myth: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
- ?Lv 72 years ago
<Are they just parroting a previous idiotic pope?> A trope, you mean? You're right, though, the only 'evidence' they can produce is "Just look at the trees! Look at the pretty flowers!", as though the existence of nature somehow proves the existence of invisible supernatural beings. It's an argument for paganism, maybe. Otherwise, believers never, ever bring any of this copious evidence with them.
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- 2 years ago
For "pray" the blocker/answerer.
Where's my proof that god doesn't exist?
I need none.
Atheism : Nonbelief in gods.
You claim a god, not me.
You prove a god.
So, why can't you prove a god?
Are you really this dumb, or just doing a terrible job at attempting to troll?
Source(s): Ps. Would you care to answer my question..? - Anonymous2 years ago
They are parroting someone, that is certain.
- Anonymous2 years ago
praise Jesus!