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The troll "pray" keeps asking me to show evidence that gods don't exist. Is this more trolling, or does he need a dictionary?

Is he really incapable of understanding that the person claiming the existence of something is the person owing evidence supporting its existence?

Anyway, lets play his way and say he's right and I'm wrong :

Pray, show evidence that Zeus, King of the Gods does not exist,or never speak of Vile (bible) god again.

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  • Nous
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    The first person to produce a single tiny little piece of verifiable evidence for any god will become world famous and mega rich!

    Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.

    The bible is what is called "Faction” A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!

    There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!

    There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?

    Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

    Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!

    At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!

    Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

    Christianity is an invention of the Italians and that is why it came from the Holy ROMAN Catholic church!

    Please realize that those claims for the Old historians are worthless since they were not even born until long after everyone in the stories would have been so long dead!

    Josephus AD 37 – AD 100

    Tacitus AD 56 – AD 120

    Suetonius - 69 – 130 AD

    Pliny the Younger, 61 AD – 112 AD

    Justin Martyr (Saint Justin) AD103–165 AD

    Lucian - AD 120 -180 AD but he was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it.

    Pamphilius AD 240-309 AD

    Eusebius AD 263 – 339 AD

    Photius AD 877 – 886 AD

    Thallus - But there are no actual record of him except a fragment of writing which mentions the sack of Troy [109 BC] Showing that he was clearly not alive in biblical times.

    Some even try to use Seneca. 4 BCE – 65 CE but as a Stoic Philosopher he opposed religion yet made not a single mention of a Jesus or Christianity!

    Even funnier is trying to claim Celsus AD ? – 177 AD Who said that Jesus was a Jew who’se mother was a poor Jewish girl whose husband, who was a carpenter, drove her away because of her adultery with a Roman soldier named Panthera. She gave birth to an illegitimate child named Jesus. In Egypt, Jesus became learned in sorcery and upon his return presented himself as a god.

    Research shows whilst education reduces religious belief each year of further education reduces religious belief by up to 10%!

  • 2 years ago

    Is this more trolling, or does he need a dictionary?

    - He needs intelligence beyond 6th grade, and know that you cannot prove a negative.

    Is he really incapable of understanding that the person claiming the existence of something is the person owing evidence supporting its existence?

    - YES, he is a fundie, REFUSING to consider reality.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    Does the problem not originate with atheists? They are the ones continually asking for evidence of God. Which in itself is quite ironic, as they say there are no gods.

  • Anonymous
    2 years ago

    Take it from a raven. That one is a Poe.

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  • 2 years ago

    Right, but it gets worse. Philosophically (my undergrad major) it is impossible to prove a negative. Ask them to lay out the case that there are no unicorns, Yeti, or other mythical creatures. I cannot prove that I have never not seen a space alien.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    2 years ago

    You told it: it's a TROLL! Then believers ( either they are trolls or not), perfectly know that when something doesn't exist, so it can't be proven ( and will never be).

  • 2 years ago

    I just cite myself as evidence against a perfect creator. I get surprisingly little pushback.

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