Christians - Please read this article and then tell me if you still think that Jews 4 Jesus is on the up-n-up?

http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/16676/

I think you may find out WHY we Jews tend to get upset over the tactics that Jews 4 Jesus employs. What's YOUR opinion on this?

The Gallant Gryffindor Returns!!2008-10-14T16:39:54Z

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This Jews for Jesus BS really pisses me off. There is no way a Jew can be a christian...it contradicts itself. These messianic "Jews" are nothing more than fundies that are trying to undermine Jewish principles...I mean how on earth can someone call themselves a Jew if they worship christ? It makes no sense. Don't get me wrong it's not like I hate someone just for worshiping Jesus...it's just they need to do so under the correct "label". Calling themselves Jews creates alot of confusion for those of us who don't know much about Judaism...Jews have suffered enough over the centuries without having their identity taken too.

It's all very decietful!

(((Paperback Writer)))

Anonymous2008-10-15T05:47:27Z



J4J & the Messies are deceitful blasphmeous liars claiming falsely to be Jewish in an attempt to lure Jews into thinking Jesus is the saviour..If those people choose believing that fine,but their definately not Jewish!!

Plushy...Very good question & I'm still waiting for a Xtian reply..Am Jewish as most know :-) I'd like to know if the NT approves of lying in order to convert others to their beliefs??

Really PO'd,

Orthodox Jew


Anonymous2008-10-14T22:49:07Z

Here's what happened when a Jewish student DID get thoroughly deceived by a Messianic group:

Meet Jonathan. He was away at University, in his first year, studying Politics. When a fellow student, Suzanne, befriended him, he was delighted. He knew, of course, that she was Jewish - well, after all, she was wearing a Star Of David!

After a few weeks, Suzanne invited Jonathan to go with her to 'synagogue'. Not the one that most Jewish students at that particular University preferred but another, 'more friendly' synagogue. Jonathan said yes, and didn't give it another thought.

And on the following Friday night, he was impressed by the warm reception he got at this 'temple'. Everyone was smiling. Welcoming. The synagogue looked like every other synagogue he'd ever attended. The 'Rabbi' was charismatic, and gave an interesting and humorous service. The kiddush was lovely. Jonathan went home feeling great.

And so when, a few weeks later, Suzanne and some of the other members of the temple suggested to Jonathan that he take a look at a wonderful 'Hebrew scripture', he shrugged and figured, 'Where's the harm?'.

Suzanne explained that the scripture was called the 'Brit Chadasha'.

She gave Jonathan some photocopied pages from it and he glanced through them. They were fairly interesting. Prettily written. He found himself impressed with the emphasis on kindness and love that appeared throughout the pages. Jonathan had never been very into religion - sure, he was Jewish, but he wasn't 'observant'.

But Suzanne was keen to discuss the scriptures and Jonathan soon found he was enjoying their chats. By the time the name 'Yeshua' came up, Jon wasn't even bothered. He liked this new form of 'messianic' Judaism that he'd been introduced to.

The problem? 'Brit Chadasha' is Hebrew for NEW TESTAMENT.

Jonathan had been studying the Christian bible without even knowing it. He was not now a 'messianic' Jew. He was now well on the way to being a practising CHRISTIAN. And today? He is one. And his dearest wish: to convince his family to also 'know Christ'.

And on the internet, Messianics are having great success. On debate forums across America and the UK, they are busy representing 'judaism' and convincing millions of well meaning non Jews that 'real jews DO embrace Jesus!'

Fortunately in some forums - such as Yahoo Answers - there are genuine Jews who are countering this deception. Even then, they come under attack from the Messianics who accuse the Jews of 'discrimination'. In other words: Jews are being told they have to accept a Christian evangelical group as part OF Judaism - or be guilty of 'discrimination'!

Already, Messianics have been hijacking Jewish festivals. At Pesach, hundreds of thousands of Messianics celebrate 'the real passover', in which Jesus is the 'sacrificial lamb'.

In short: Messianics are slowly but surely taking everything that Judaism holds as sacred, and Christianising it.

Anonymous2008-10-14T22:46:06Z

I am not a Christian, but being a Jew I would like to say this article absolutely makes me sick. And of course they are not recognized by Jews as a legitimate stream of Judaism. Because it's not Judaism. It's Christianity. As always when I read article's like this, I am appalled.





You tell them PaperBack!!!

marcus2008-10-14T22:49:25Z

These Christians who disguise themselves as Jews should drop to their knees and beg forgiveness from their Jesus for the lies and the deceptive practices they have been engaging in. They then should formally change their name to "messianic Christians" and leave Jews alone!

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